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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    I don't I use 60 watt.. What gives the government the right to make my choices for me? Letcapitalism work if the new light bulbs are so great the old bulbs will go the way of the 8 track. The government will force us which means I will get stubborn and stock up
    Already have...they can have my old standard 100 watt bulbs when they pry them from my cold, dead fingers.

    Where are these new lightbulbs being built? And wasnt there some sort of environmental impact regarding their disposal? And for all their supposed extra long life...Im not seeing it. The ones I do use burn out just as fast as the old lightbulbs. Oh...and heres another problem...how many people just leave the lights on 24/7 now because they are tired of these new bulbs taking 5 minutes to get to their full lumination?

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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Already have...they can have my old standard 100 watt bulbs when they pry them from my cold, dead fingers.

    Where are these new lightbulbs being built? And wasnt there some sort of environmental impact regarding their disposal? And for all their supposed extra long life...Im not seeing it. The ones I do use burn out just as fast as the old lightbulbs. Oh...and heres another problem...how many people just leave the lights on 24/7 now because they are tired of these new bulbs taking 5 minutes to get to their full lumination?




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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Now we will be told what size light bulb we can use. More government control over our lives.

    Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye - San Jose Mercury News

    As of Saturday, what used to be a 100-watt light bulb manufactured and sold in California will have to use 72 watts or less. The 72-watt replacement bulb, also called an energy-saving halogen light, will provide the same amount of light, called lumens, for lower energy cost.

    Similar new standards for traditional 75-watt, 60-watt and 40-watt incandescent bulbs will go into effect in California over the next few years, with wattages reduced to 53, 43 and 29 respectively.

    The new rule does not ban incandescent light bulbs; it just requires those bulbs to be 25 to 30 percent more efficient. And it only affects incandescent light bulbs manufactured in 2011 or later, not those already in use or on store shelves.
    Who would want to buy an inefficient, more expensive lightbulb? I get the less government regulation argument generally, but when it gets to the point where people are complaining about the government making them save money with little perceivable negative effects and at least decently supported evidence of community benefit, I find that kind of silly.
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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by ??? View Post
    Who would want to buy an inefficient, more expensive lightbulb? I get the less government regulation argument generally, but when it gets to the point where people are complaining about the government making them save money with little perceivable negative effects and at least decently supported evidence of community benefit, I find that kind of silly.



    If the bulbs really are that much better, the government wouldn't need to mandate folks purchasing them.


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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    If the bulbs really are that much better, the government wouldn't need to mandate folks purchasing them.


    Let the market decide.,
    Rev, the market is full of idiots. I mean look at Wal Mart, you really think the people shopping there would make the RIGHT choice? People are STUPID! They need, and secretly WANT help in making the right choices!
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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Rev, the market is full of idiots. I mean look at Wal Mart, you really think the people shopping there would make the RIGHT choice? People are STUPID! They need, and secretly WANT help in making the right choices!


    Uhm yeah, they would eventually get it.



    Fool and thier money.... government mandates will never fix that.
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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    If the bulbs really are that much better, the government wouldn't need to mandate folks purchasing them.


    Let the market decide.,
    I don't think people are idiots, but the amount of time people can spend researching things at the level of lightbulbs is necessarily limited. And let's not forget that the market is controlled by companies who are ulikely to make such investigation (as to which lightbulb is the best) quick or easy. Government regulation in situations like this is basically just a time saver for consumers. Letting the market decide just for the sake of letting the market decide seems inefficient.
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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Uhm yeah, they would eventually get it.



    Fool and thier money.... government mandates will never fix that.
    Govt should have stepped in and saved us from VHS!

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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by ??? View Post
    I don't think people are idiots, but the amount of time people can spend researching things at the level of lightbulbs is necessarily limited. And let's not forget that the market is controlled by companies who are ulikely to make the investigation of which type of lightbulb is the best easy. Government regulations in situations like this is basically just a time saver for consumers.
    Think of all the ways Gov't could save stupid people from wrong choices....
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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Think of all the ways Gov't could save stupid people from wrong choices....
    we could stop having elections and just let congress decide who gets to be President...
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