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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I'm not thinking natural gas because I am thinking long-term. I'm not thinking natural gas because it is another declining fossil fuel that will just further delay our necessary transition to renewable energy that will be required to prevent future blackouts. Through what we already know about alternative energy and energy efficiency, we could have transitioned away from Persian gulf oil over the last 40 years, while the rest of the world transitions away from fossil fuels. If we continue to sit on our butts and do nothing to provide our own energy, we will be left behind economically in the future.

    So, you idea of a long term solution, is a government subsidized fuel, that will cause vehicles to get 34% less fuel mileage?
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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Does a gallon of produced gasoline create three gallons of waste water, like ethanol does? Most of the water used to produce gasoline, is used for cooling and be recycled within the refinery.
    More than three, when you add in the water used in retrieving the crude oil.
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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    More than three, when you add in the water used in retrieving the crude oil.
    Water used in retrieving the crude oil?
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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Water used in retrieving the crude oil?
    Yes.

    The industry uses what they call "mud", which is a mixture of seawater and various oils, to lubricate the drill head and help blast away at the earth while drilling.

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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Does a gallon of produced gasoline create three gallons of waste water, like ethanol does? Most of the water used to produce gasoline, is used for cooling and be recycled within the refinery.
    Producing water as it's used is actually a reason NOT to use ethanol...because that water tends to mes up an engine, increasing maintenance costs which are greater than money saved by using ethanol. In short, ethanol increases the cost of operating a vehicle.

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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Yes.

    The industry uses what they call "mud", which is a mixture of seawater and various oils, to lubricate the drill head and help blast away at the earth while drilling.
    Ah, he was talking about drilling mud. Well, oil based mud doesn't have water in it, hence the term, oil based mud. Water based mud does, however and the mud is recycled, so by comparison oil rigs use less water than ethanol production does.

    Mud is used to weigh down the downhole pressure, to prevent a well from blowing out. That's it's primary usage while drilling.
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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Producing water as it's used is actually a reason NOT to use ethanol...because that water tends to mes up an engine, increasing maintenance costs which are greater than money saved by using ethanol. In short, ethanol increases the cost of operating a vehicle.
    Agreed, it's what I've been saying all along.
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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Water used in retrieving the crude oil?
    As in "getting oil out of the ground"
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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Yes.

    The industry uses what they call "mud", which is a mixture of seawater and various oils, to lubricate the drill head and help blast away at the earth while drilling.
    That's one type of way that water is used in getting crude, but there are numerous other ways such as flooding/water injection. It is estimated that rcovering crude from the ground uses from 2.1-5.4 gallons of freshwater per every gallon of oil.
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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    That's one type of way that water is used in getting crude, but there are numerous other ways such as flooding/water injection. It is estimated that rcovering crude from the ground uses from 2.1-5.4 gallons of freshwater per every gallon of oil.
    Care to post those projections?

    After you do, I'll explain to you how fracing works and how they filter the water used for a frac job and reintroduce it into the environment.
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