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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    What's the price going to be, after you add in the ethanol subsidies that come from the government? Oil, or no oil, our military presence isn't going away anytime soon. I bet if you factor in the government subsidies, it goes up to 12 bucks a gallon. Plus, the fact that consumers are going to have to buy more ethanol, because it's not as efficient as gasoline.

    So, how is this better for the consumer again?
    Now you are speculating wildly. Let's see some facts and figures. You are not looking at this long term and I am not sure why. You seem opposed to any form of energy, or even energy efficiency that would lessen our dependence on foreign sources of oil that are declining and therefore becoming more expensive. Why is that?
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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    So starve a little now, you'll get it back in 5 years?
    A penny saved is a penny earned!
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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Now you are speculating wildly. Let's see some facts and figures. You are not looking at this long term and I am not sure why. You seem opposed to any form of energy, or even energy efficiency that would lessen our dependence on foreign sources of oil that are declining and therefore becoming more expensive. Why is that?
    I'm all for a practical alternative, that doesn't need to be permanently propped up with tax dollars. So far, that alternative doesn't exist. Why aren't you alter-energy gurus pushing natural gas?

    Cutting domestic oil production by 13% sure as hell isn't the answer. The One wanted to go after the oil companies and doing so, he caused the price of oil to go up, thereby increasing profits for the oil companies. He really showed them!!!
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    A penny saved is a penny earned!


    don't they contain mercury?
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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    A penny saved is a penny earned!
    A penny in 5 years? Hey! Sounds like a good return on an investment to me.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    don't they contain mercury?
    Don't forget the zinc and cooper that has to be strip mined for those pennies.

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Like I said, the oil companies love you for it Jerry!
    They show me their love by paying me well, so yeah the love is mutual. Sure, $6 per gallon, ok, but I get BAH, GIbill, GI pay kicker, faster promotions, better training which can used in civilian jobs....yeah they love me, oh they slob my know every day to make sure I remember who loves me, too.

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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Don't forget the zinc and cooper that has to be strip mined for those pennies.

    See that lil truck down there? $30 per/Hr + benifits, starting. I'll pay $6 per gallon for that, **** yes.

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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    don't they contain mercury?
    Nope.

    "Halogen light bulbs are a type of incandescent light bulbs and are filled with a halogen gas. The halogen gas gives the bulbs a longer life than traditional incandescent bulbs because it helps redeposit the evaporated tungsten back to the filament. Halogen light bulbs are not the same thing as compact fluorescent light bulbs (CFL bulbs), which have mercury inside and are often subject to state or local disposal regulations. Also, halogen light bulbs are not recyclable like CFL bulbs are."

    Read more: How to Dispose of Halogen Light Bulbs | eHow.com How to Dispose of Halogen Light Bulbs | eHow.com

    Personally, I prefer the LED bulbs, but the halogen bulbs are definitely a step up from regular incandescent bulbs.
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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I'm all for a practical alternative, that doesn't need to be permanently propped up with tax dollars. So far, that alternative doesn't exist. Why aren't you alter-energy gurus pushing natural gas?

    Cutting domestic oil production by 13% sure as hell isn't the answer. The One wanted to go after the oil companies and doing so, he caused the price of oil to go up, thereby increasing profits for the oil companies. He really showed them!!!
    I'm not thinking natural gas because I am thinking long-term. I'm not thinking natural gas because it is another declining fossil fuel that will just further delay our necessary transition to renewable energy that will be required to prevent future blackouts. Through what we already know about alternative energy and energy efficiency, we could have transitioned away from Persian gulf oil over the last 40 years, while the rest of the world transitions away from fossil fuels. If we continue to sit on our butts and do nothing to provide our own energy, we will be left behind economically in the future.
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