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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Your quote:

    From your link:

    Exactly what are you bitching about? This is the government requiring greater efficiency, on your behalf, from manufacturers. This is win/win for you. You can still BUY a brighter bulb, it will just use less energy.
    Should this not be the manufacturer doing this not the government?

    I have found compact fluorescent do not last longer. I am stocking up on incandescent lights because I thought they were going to be phased out by the government. How many more laws on light bulbs will we have?

    Lights out for the incandescent bulb | The Washington Post

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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    So you live in the dark, literally that is, not figuratively....

    Long time ago, circa 1984, I took a college class called "Alternate Energy Technology".
    We compared energy sources, their best uses based on properties, wastes produced, difficulty to get the fuels to power plants, etc.
    Oil wasn't really considered in the study, as it is primarily a transportation fuel.
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    After doing all the comparisons, the class determined that nuclear was expensive but cleanest, and had the least deaths from mining to use to disposal of waste products. Coal was cheapest, but dirty and dangerous, accounting for more deaths than any other. Natural gas was a nice compromise, but at the time it wasn't available in enough locations, and it was hard to transport.
    Bunker oil was still being used, but was being eliminated from the mix since the Carter days.
    After we did all that, the professor threw in ONE MORE ITEM to consider, conservation....
    If every house switched over to flourescents for just half their lighting load, we could SHUT DOWN a lot of our power plants, and it would be a lot of years before new ones would have to be built....
    I know that makes sense for the technically minded here, but it also looks like a goddamcommieplot to the ubercons among us who think we need to just burn more coal, air pollution be damned.

    Name calling, false arguments, and spurrious claims of "back in college we determined".

    Wasn't there a singer who made waves by pointing out if we all just use 1 square of toilet paper we'd save millions of acres of trees?


    The issue is of being forced by bureaucratic nimrods to behave in a manner they see fit, rather then by personal choice.

    But please, blather on about how we really think it's a commie plot and we like dirty air!
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Name calling, false arguments, and spurrious claims of "back in college we determined".

    Wasn't there a singer who made waves by pointing out if we all just use 1 square of toilet paper we'd save millions of acres of trees?


    The issue is of being forced by bureaucratic nimrods to behave in a manner they see fit, rather then by personal choice.

    But please, blather on about how we really think it's a commie plot and we like dirty air!
    What name calling? Here is one for you, specificially. Mr. V, you are a very dim bulb where it comes to energy issues...
    You go ahead and burn your incandescent bulbs, especially in the summer when the excessive heat given off those bulbs cause your air conditioner to work overtime...yeah, that's smart..
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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I hardly ever buy bulbs that are over 60 watts (and most are 40 watts), so I'm not particularly alarmed by this. They're cheaper for me to operate, and provide plenty of light (particularly the new flourescent ones).
    The only thing that bugs me about CFL's is that some of them have to warm up for several minutes before you get full lighting.
    So I mix in a couple halogens.....
    CFL's really should be disposed of at Home Depot and/or Lowe's, though.
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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    What name calling? Here is one for you, specificially. Mr. V, you are a very dim bulb where it comes to energy issues...
    You go ahead and burn your incandescent bulbs, especially in the summer when the excessive heat given off those bulbs cause your air conditioner to work overtime...yeah, that's smart..

    How many lights do you think people burn at once. The heat does not cause that much more heat to cause the temp to increase in the whole house. It is about the extra energy used because it produces the heat.

    This is more government control because people never make the right decisions only the government knows best. So much for capitalism and product choices.

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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Nothing like killing US Jobs to make you feel better eh?



    Obama's Vision and reality not meshing?



    Light bulb factory closes; End of era for U.S. means more jobs overseas
    The conversion to CFL's was in the works long before Obama, but don't let that bit of info stop your incessant and ignorant hatred of our President....
    BTW, this was a Bush bill....

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_...ty_Act_of_2007
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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    The only thing that bugs me about CFL's is that some of them have to warm up for several minutes before you get full lighting.
    So I mix in a couple halogens.....
    CFL's really should be disposed of at Home Depot and/or Lowe's, though.
    They are considered hazmat and must be disposed of properly through the local waste management facility.

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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    The conversion to CFL's was in the works long before Obama, but don't let that bit of info stop your incessant and ignorant hatred of our President....
    I posted a link showing the law Bush signed in 2007

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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    What name calling?
    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    I know that makes sense for the technically minded here, but it also looks like a goddamcommieplot to the ubercons among us who think we need to just burn more coal, air pollution be damned.
    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Here is one for you, specificially. Mr. V, you are a very dim bulb where it comes to energy issues...
    Really, because I mocked your "back in college we determined..."
    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    You go ahead and burn your incandescent bulbs, especially in the summer when the excessive heat given off those bulbs cause your air conditioner to work overtime...yeah, that's smart..
    OH GNOES! Not an extra few minutes of AC!!!! Terrible! Actually in the summer the curtains are open for light. About half my bulbs are incandescent and half are those goofy twist bulbs.

    As for being "dim bulb" on energy issues...

    The power required to create the CFL bulbs, and then ship them over here from China AND for proper disposal of said bulbs > incandescent bulbs manufactured here and used here. But that's a lot of hidden data and requires more insight then just "40w > 100w lol!"
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    The conversion to CFL's was in the works long before Obama, but don't let that bit of info stop your incessant and ignorant hatred of our President....
    Wherein did I specifically blame Obama for this? I was contrasting the Green Enviro move which Obama pushes being a Job Maker, and what's really going on.
    How is it "hatred" to point out failure?
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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