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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Water is recycled in algae production, and it yields between 10 and 100 times more energy per unit area than other second-generation biofuel crops. If you look at the true cost of gasoline, adding in the military support to keep the oil from the Persian Gulf flowing, this is a cost effective alternative.
    Cost effective for who?
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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Cost effective for who?
    For consumers/taxpayers that are currently paying over $6/gal for gas by the time you add in the military cost of keeping the oil flowing from the Persian Gulf.
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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    For consumers/taxpayers that are currently paying over $6/gal for gas by the time you add in the military cost of keeping the oil flowing from the Persian Gulf.
    I'm ok with paying $6 per gallon for gas, because that only amounts to about an additional $50-$100 per month to my fuel bill on top of what I pay now. I'm ok with that, because $50-$100 isn't going to break me.

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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I'm ok with paying $6 per gallon for gas, because that only amounts to about an additional $50-$100 per month to my fuel bill on top of what I pay now. I'm ok with that, because $50-$100 isn't going to break me.
    No, $6/gal is what you have been paying per gal since we invaded Iraq. and that doesn't even include what Uncle Sam put on the credit card for our kids and grandkids to pay off, or the unnecessary loss of life it entailed. But the oil companies and their record profits love you for it Jerry!
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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    No, $6/gal is what you have been paying per gal since we invaded Iraq. and that doesn't even include what Uncle Sam put on the credit card for our kids and grandkids to pay off, or the unnecessary loss of life it entailed. But the oil companies and their record profits love you for it Jerry!
    You're talking to someone who joined the service last year out of direct support for fighting for oil. My unit is deploying to the ME in 6 months to than and, and I'm glad to go. So, you're telling me that I've been paying this money all along. Ok, I'm doing just fine, so no big deal.

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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Sensible. Has happened in Europe.. hard to get the old style bulbs now days and good. In this case government should mandate such things as people would never switch over to energy saving bulbs because they are more expensive than "old type" bulbs. Now the fact that energy saving bulbs last longer on average (way longer) and cost way less to run should factor in, but as we all know, the consumer is ignorant of such things and only want short term visible results. I think I have one old type bulb in the house, but that is due to the lamp ("it looks pretty" is the comment in this house).. and as soon as the lamp can be replaced then it goes.


    so one must spend more money on light bulbs instead of food for thier families.... that's some great eurologic there......
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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    For consumers/taxpayers that are currently paying over $6/gal for gas by the time you add in the military cost of keeping the oil flowing from the Persian Gulf.
    What's the price going to be, after you add in the ethanol subsidies that come from the government? Oil, or no oil, our military presence isn't going away anytime soon. I bet if you factor in the government subsidies, it goes up to 12 bucks a gallon. Plus, the fact that consumers are going to have to buy more ethanol, because it's not as efficient as gasoline.

    So, how is this better for the consumer again?
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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    You're talking to someone who joined the service last year out of direct support for fighting for oil. My unit is deploying to the ME in 6 months to than and, and I'm glad to go. So, you're telling me that I've been paying this money all along. Ok, I'm doing just fine, so no big deal.
    Like I said, the oil companies love you for it Jerry!
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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    so one must spend more money on light bulbs instead of food for thier families.... that's some great eurologic there......
    Actually, you have it a little backwards, the new bulbs save you money over the life of the bulb, so you get the same light for less money.
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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Actually, you have it a little backwards, the new bulbs save you money over the life of the bulb, so you get the same light for less money.

    So starve a little now, you'll get it back in 5 years?
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