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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    It's not about government leadership. It's about private commerce and how much profit is to be made. If the same companies who manufacture the existing bulbs have to adapt to the CFL bulbs, it could take years to phase them in.

    As we all noticed the last few years, private commerce plays the tune and the government dances to it.

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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Easy way around an incandescent light bulb ban...


    Re-brand it as a "heat ball". Those crafty Germans are at it again and I LIKE IT!

    Skirting EU law: The rebranding of incandescent bulbs as 'Heat Balls' | MNN - Mother Nature Network
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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, that's because of peak oil? You better go tell all the oil companies to stop drilling, because there's no more oil there. I bet they would love to have that little bit of info.
    Let me try to break this down for you even simpler. Peak oil does not mean there is no more oil. It means that we consume more than we produce, and its been that way since 1970, unless you can provide evidence of any year in the last 40 when we produced more than we consumed.

    I'll wait.
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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

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    Let's bring GE back by increasing corporate taxes if they don't make the bulbs the govt wants.
    So... you're advocating more government intervention to combat the current government intervention?
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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    It's not about government leadership. It's about private commerce and how much profit is to be made. If the same companies who manufacture the existing bulbs have to adapt to the CFL bulbs, it could take years to phase them in.

    As we all noticed the last few years, private commerce plays the tune and the government dances to it.

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    That's exactly how it should be.
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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Let me try to break this down for you even simpler. Peak oil does not mean there is no more oil. It means that we consume more than we produce, and its been that way since 1970, unless you can provide evidence of any year in the last 40 when we produced more than we consumed.

    I'll wait.
    Let's leave cookies for Santa, too.

    Producing less than we consume has more to do with price manipulation and government regulation, than anything else.
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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    By the way, here's a link for those of you who really want to stick it to The Man:

    You Do It: Make Your Own Light Bulb | LiveScience

    Build your OWN 1,500 watt light bulbs in 30 minutes! That'll teach 'em.
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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That's exactly how it should be.
    So corporate profits should be a higher priority for the country than the public good? Is this the new (just like the old) Republican platform?
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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    So corporate profits should be a higher priority for the country than the public good? Is this the new (just like the old) Republican platform?
    Obviously not. By the same token, killing corporate profits in the interest of the public good, is just as bad.

    You want the government to have the tax dollars it needs to operate? Want to see the deficite go away? Fewer private sector profits means fewer tax dollars.
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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Let's leave cookies for Santa, too.

    Producing less than we consume has more to do with price manipulation and government regulation, than anything else.
    In the absence of knowledge on the subject it seems you are deluding yourself.

    "In retrospect, the U.S. oil peak might be seen as the most significant geopolitical event of the mid to late 20th Century, creating the conditions for the energy crises of the 1970s, leading to far greater U.S. strategic emphasis on controlling foreign sources of oil, and spelling the beginning of the end of the status of the U.S. as the world's major creditor nation. The U.S. of course, was able to import oil from elsewhere. Mounting debt has allowed life to continue in the U.S. with only minimal interruption so far. When global oil production peaks, the implications will be felt far more "

    Here's a good place to learn more on the subject ~ Peak oil primer and links | Energy Bulletin
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