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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    LOL! How appropriate to quote the father of our energy crisis! I needed that, thanks!
    Energy crisis? Wth is that really? Are you talking about brownouts? If so then perhaps your state should look into building a nuclear power plant. Instead of regulating everyone on any little thing they can find.

    As far as the OP goes...

    I am for the new bulbs. They do save me money and I'm careful enough that I won't break one. *knocks on wood* I use em all the time. That said I'm really getting tired of government intrusions into the private and business sectors. It is not governments job to tell private citizens how to conduct thier lives or businesses on the micro scale.
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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    I really find it hard to care about this much one way or the other. I switched over to compact fluorescents about 3 years ago and have no desire to switch back. My electric bill has been noticeably cheaper since I got them, and I've not had to replace a single bulb in that 3 years.
    Don't feel too secure with your CFLs. LEDs are even better, and they will probably also be mandated in the future. All flashlights, and some cars, have them now.

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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    No consumers are stupid because they do not have all the information. And if it was not for the government forcing people to do stuff, then the US still would have slavery and women could not vote.. think about that.
    The government didn't just up one day and change that.
    They slowly changed policies that came under fire - heavy and constant fire - from the people.

    Many states had no problems ratifying various measure and adopting different pracitces that gave more people equality.

    Not saying it's 100% truth - but many changes begin and end with the people's pressure.

    Like it or not, the consumers and the "free market" is not fast enough more than often to implement better technology for safety or conservation. If it was not for laws and rules then things like seat belts in cars would not be mandatory. Even to this day, the generation that grew up during the "optional" period has a damn hard time in remembering the belt, which is why many cars have the "beep beep beep" alarm (which some turn off.....) to remind people to put on the seat belt.

    And like it or not, old style bulbs might be cheap (for now) but energy wise they are pigs. Add into that, the fact that they last far shorter than energy saving bulbs, then an energy saving bulb is very quickly "earned" back despite that the bulb it self is more expensive. But consumers do not think like that in most cases. Hell the UK had the problem last year when the bulbs were banned for sale... people complained about the light from energy savers being "not good enough" to "did not like it" and all sorts of excuses. When presented with the energy saved and money, then very few actually continued with the same tone. Those that did continue with the tone were usual 50+ in age.

    So while you might think this is another intrusion by government on the lives of people, this intrusion makes a whole lot of sense. Think about the energy save if everyone went to energy saving bulbs? Aint it a right wing platform to get rid of energy dependence on foreign oil? Well this is one of many ways of doing it.
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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Energy crisis? Wth is that really? Are you talking about brownouts? If so then perhaps your state should look into building a nuclear power plant. Instead of regulating everyone on any little thing they can find.

    As far as the OP goes...

    I am for the new bulbs. They do save me money and I'm careful enough that I won't break one. *knocks on wood* I use em all the time. That said I'm really getting tired of government intrusions into the private and business sectors. It is not governments job to tell private citizens how to conduct thier lives or businesses on the micro scale.
    Perhaps you are not aware that we passes peak oil in this country in 1970, and that it now requires Middle East wars to keep us supplied with energy. You don't see that as a crisis? Hell I've been waiting for government leadership in energy for 40 years!
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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    These guys won't be impressed by peak oil, they're still trying to save the buggy whip!
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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I think that it's rich that you weren't particularly concerned about the longterm toxic effects of millions of gallons of oil spilled gulf, but you're all up in arms about a miniscule amount of mercury in lightbulbs.

    It's entertaining to watch your positions shift on the basis of what Rush limbaugh has been bitching about today.
    What's even richer, is passing law that mandates the use of light bulbs, filled with mercury that will find it's way into underground water supplies; all in the name of environmental protection.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Perhaps you are not aware that we passes peak oil in this country in 1970, and that it now requires Middle East wars to keep us supplied with energy. You don't see that as a crisis? Hell I've been waiting for government leadership in energy for 40 years!
    Anybody that believes in peak oil, also believes in global waming and the tooth fairy.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    What's even richer, is passing law that mandates the use of light bulbs, filled with mercury that will find it's way into underground water supplies; all in the name of environmental protection.
    have we done that?

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Anybody that believes in peak oil, also believes in global waming and the tooth fairy.
    And is not one of 150 million blessed rightwing americans with the vision to show the rest of planet earth the way to return to a glorious and shiny past that never existed?

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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    In the ubercons defense, mercury has been shown to affect our extemeties, like hands, feet, head......nuff said?
    Apparently, some of the ubercons have spent too much time marinating their heads in gulf oil.

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