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    Re: Ezra klein 'constitution has no binding power on anything'

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I've said it many, many times.

    Context is entirely ****ing lost on some people.

    It completely blows my mind that people could actually interpret that conversation as Klein saying the constitution doesn't have binding power on anything. To me, this is someone steadfastly declaring that the sky is, in fact, purple.

    Context? Ah I see, the last bastion of a losing argument.

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    Re: Ezra klein 'constitution has no binding power on anything'

    Quote Originally Posted by Mach View Post
    It has been demonstrated also on this forum that at the root of a number of liberal (according to lean) individuals belief system, is that the Constitution can be interpreted as having infinite power in these ways, except when explicitly prohibited:
    control over the market via commerce clause
    control over how it spend money via "general welfare'
    control over how much they can take from you via taxation

    And that's not exaggerating at all. They would argue it isn't true that power would actually be used, or practically COULD be used, but they believe it legitimately exists. I use to think constitutional issues were just rhetorical nonsense from the right...I was slowly shown that in the general sense, it really is a fundamental issue.

    Let us not forget the esteemed Nancy Pelosi when questioned on where the congress derived the power to force the purchase of health care on individual citizens, from a private insurer.




    Authority? Authority? We don't need no stinkin' authority.......


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    Re: Ezra klein 'constitution has no binding power on anything'

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Context? Ah I see, the last bastion of a losing argument.

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    So you're still sticking with the "Klein thinks the constitution isn't binding" argument?
    Really?

    Ok. Since context isn't important, here's something you said:
    congress derived the power to force the purchase of health care on individual citizens, from a private insurer.
    J-mac is for Obamacare.

    Authority? Authority? We don't need no stinkin' authority.......
    J-mac is for anarchy.

    The constitution is outdated and too hard to understand
    J-mac doesn't understand the constitution. It's too hard for him.

    Let's see, it was written in English wasn't it?
    J-mac doesn't actually know if the constitution was written in English, so he had to ask to make sure.

    Oh, and here is more condescending from the esteemed Mr. Klein....That is if you are smart enough to read it.....
    J-mac thinks some people on this message board don't know how to read.

    conservatives do it too
    J-mac is saying conservatives also rape babies. (that's what "it" refers to. honest)

    Context. Sign of a failing argument, eh J-mac?


    And yes, actually, conservatives do interpret the constitution, because all written language requires interpretation, by definition. Right to bear arms, ya? Arms. Those two things attached to your shoulders. Clearly this is what the founding fathers meant. If they meant guns, they'd say guns, right?
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Ezra klein 'constitution has no binding power on anything'

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    So you're still sticking with the "Klein thinks the constitution isn't binding" argument?
    Really?

    Ok. Since context isn't important, here's something you said:


    J-mac is for Obamacare.


    J-mac is for anarchy.



    J-mac doesn't understand the constitution. It's too hard for him.



    J-mac doesn't actually know if the constitution was written in English, so he had to ask to make sure.



    J-mac thinks some people on this message board don't know how to read.



    J-mac is saying conservatives also rape babies. (that's what "it" refers to. honest)

    Context. Sign of a failing argument, eh J-mac?


    And yes, actually, conservatives do interpret the constitution, because all written language requires interpretation, by definition. Right to bear arms, ya? Arms. Those two things attached to your shoulders. Clearly this is what the founding fathers meant. If they meant guns, they'd say guns, right?

    Although entertaining, quite sophomoric..... Nice try though....


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    Re: Ezra klein 'constitution has no binding power on anything'

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Let us not forget the esteemed Nancy Pelosi when questioned on where the congress derived the power to force the purchase of health care on individual citizens, from a private insurer.




    Authority? Authority? We don't need no stinkin' authority.......


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    Re: Ezra klein 'constitution has no binding power on anything'

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Let us not forget the esteemed Nancy Pelosi when questioned on where the congress derived the power to force the purchase of health care on individual citizens, from a private insurer.




    Authority? Authority? We don't need no stinkin' authority.......


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    That's it - a 25 second audio clip? Where's the rest of it?
    No video?

    Can we even verify it's her - however much I want to believe it's her - I have no context to go by and someone being called 'Mrs Pelosi' on a garbled tape doesn't cut it for me. I've heard EVP of poltergeists that sounded just like that
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    Re: Ezra klein 'constitution has no binding power on anything'

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    That's it - a 25 second audio clip? Where's the rest of it?
    No video?

    Can we even verify it's her - however much I want to believe it's her - I have no context to go by and someone being called 'Mrs Pelosi' on a garbled tape doesn't cut it for me. I've heard EVP of poltergeists that sounded just like that
    Hypothetically, what would be your response if it turns out that was Pelosi?

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    Re: Ezra klein 'constitution has no binding power on anything'

    Quote Originally Posted by Areopagitican View Post
    Hypothetically, what would be your response if it turns out that was Pelosi?
    Hypotheticaly - if it was actually Pelosi - I'd say "that figures, such a bitch."
    Because that's what I actually think of her.

    I think she has her head so far up her ass she has to look out through her nostrils to look down at everyone.
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    Re: Ezra klein 'constitution has no binding power on anything'

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Hypotheticaly - if it was actually Pelosi - I'd say "that figures, such a bitch."
    Because that's what I actually think of her.

    I think she has her head so far up her ass she has to look out through her nostrils to look down at everyone.
    How about a reporter from the Hill....Is this better?

    Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) doesn't have much patience for conservative claims that an individual healthcare mandate is unconstitutional.

    Pressed on the issue by a reporter from a conservative website, Pelosi shot back: "Are you serious? Are you serious?"

    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...re-you-serious
    Seriously, I thought this was widely known and accepted.

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    Re: Ezra klein 'constitution has no binding power on anything'

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Although entertaining, quite sophomoric..... Nice try though....


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    Everything I wrote is 100% accurate. You wrote every one of those things.
    Last edited by Deuce; 01-07-11 at 12:44 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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