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    Re: Gay Republican Group Prompts Split Among Conservatives

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    Hey, homosexuals have every right I have. I can marry an adult member of the opposite sex: they can marry an adult member of the opposite sex. I cannot marry John from class, my sister Hannah, or Fido the labrador from Petsmart.
    You get to marry who you love, they do not. Seperate but equal is not equality.
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    Re: Gay Republican Group Prompts Split Among Conservatives

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    Okay. I'll explain.

    If sodomite "marriage" becomes a legalized thing, then Christians lose. Because a wrong lifestyle that was formerly kept private and out of public eye for the most part will become something that everyone is expected to approve of. It isn't simply, "If you think homosexuality is wrong, heh, stay away from homosexuals." It becomes, "You think homosexuality is wrong? You need sensitivity training. You need to be expelled from your school, or fired from your job. People need to publicly disown you."
    It will move to destroy my freedom of religion, the religion that a huge amount of this country has had since it's beginning. When homosexuals trash a church then, or threaten terrorism, it's no longer criminal acts, it's a persecuted minority striking back at horrible people. When parents become upset that their ten year olds are being taught at school that they might be gay, and that homosexuality is good and normal, they become the bad guys or religious bigots.

    Real Christianity that actually believes in the Bible is incompatible with the homosexual agenda. Only one can have the 'rights'.
    Despite what you say here no Christian will be forced to admit anything. At most, sometime in the distant future, you might have to keep your thoughts to yourself. But hey, Gays have been doing that for thousands of years...surely Christians can do the same?

    (yes I'm being sarcastic in part of this post)
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    Re: Gay Republican Group Prompts Split Among Conservatives

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    You get to marry who you love, they do not. Seperate but equal is not equality.
    "Marrying who you love" is not a right in any country, and the government isn't bound to recognize marriages that don't fit a certain definition. Also, what about the poor other minorities you're leaving out? People who love dogs or horses? There are plenty of those people. Or what about people who love their sisters or brothers?

    And gays can marry, they just can't force the government or anyone else to declare it is marriage, as it is perversion of marriage. You do know that until 1973 I believe it was, homosexuality was a recognized mental disorder? And going with results in the Gay Report, it seems very likely that homosexuality is encouraged by sexual abuse, which stunts development.

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    Re: Gay Republican Group Prompts Split Among Conservatives

    Quote Originally Posted by Vincent View Post
    "Marrying who you love" is not a right in any country, and the government isn't bound to recognize marriages that don't fit a certain definition. Also, what about the poor other minorities you're leaving out? People who love dogs or horses? There are plenty of those people. Or what about people who love their sisters or brothers?

    And gays can marry, they just can't force the government or anyone else to declare it is marriage, as it is perversion of marriage. You do know that until 1973 I believe it was, homosexuality was a recognized mental disorder? And going with results in the Gay Report, it seems very likely that homosexuality is encouraged by sexual abuse, which stunts development.
    A post full of Strawmans, falsities, absurdities and personal prejudices.

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    Re: Gay Republican Group Prompts Split Among Conservatives

    Quote Originally Posted by Vincent View Post
    "Marrying who you love" is not a right in any country, and the government isn't bound to recognize marriages that don't fit a certain definition. Also, what about the poor other minorities you're leaving out? People who love dogs or horses? There are plenty of those people. Or what about people who love their sisters or brothers?
    So I know, intuitively, why anti-gay marriage folks ALWAYS go here. You've really got nothing else. And I get that, I do. I'd just be embarrassed to keep bringing it up over and over and over again after it gets shot down. Apparently that's just me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vincent View Post
    And gays can marry, they just can't force the government or anyone else to declare it is marriage, as it is perversion of marriage. You do know that until 1973 I believe it was, homosexuality was a recognized mental disorder? And going with results in the Gay Report, it seems very likely that homosexuality is encouraged by sexual abuse, which stunts development.
    Annndddd...now it's not. Funny how culture changes like that, huh? And the "Gay Report?" Sounds very scientific.
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    Re: Gay Republican Group Prompts Split Among Conservatives

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post
    So I know, intuitively, why anti-gay marriage folks ALWAYS go here. You've really got nothing else. And I get that, I do. I'd just be embarrassed to keep bringing it up over and over and over again after it gets shot down. Apparently that's just me.



    Annndddd...now it's not. Funny how culture changes like that, huh? And the "Gay Report?" Sounds very scientific.
    You've never heard of "The Gay Report: Lesbians and Gay Men Speak Out about Sexual Experiences and Lifestyles (Summit Books, 1979)? It's written by two homosexual researchers, recognized pioneers in the study of homosexuality. You really don't have any business debating about this subject if you don't even know what that is. That's like talking about the history of ancient Israel and not knowing who King David was, or talking about Communism and not knowing who Karl Marx was, or talking about guns and not knowing who John Browning was.

    And also, if the argument about how incest and bestiality is so bad, please do me the favor of cutting and pasting whatever rebuttal you've come up with.
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    Re: Gay Republican Group Prompts Split Among Conservatives

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    A post full of Strawmans, falsities, absurdities and personal prejudices.
    Wow. You're arguing, but are you saying anything? No.

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    Re: Gay Republican Group Prompts Split Among Conservatives

    Quote Originally Posted by Vincent View Post
    Wow. You're arguing, but are you saying anything? No.
    You haven't really said anything this whole thread, except how, by granting people equal rights, you will lose rights. Which is so ****ing absurd it's not even remotely imaginable.

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    Re: Gay Republican Group Prompts Split Among Conservatives

    Quote Originally Posted by Vincent View Post
    You've never heard of "The Gay Report: Lesbians and Gay Men Speak Out about Sexual Experiences and Lifestyles (Summit Books, 1979)? It's written by two homosexual researchers, recognized pioneers in the study of homosexuality. You really don't have any business debating about this subject if you don't even know what that is. That's like talking about the history of ancient Israel and not knowing who King David was, or talking about Communism and not knowing who Karl Marx was, or talking about guns and not knowing who John Browning was.

    And also, if the argument about how incest and bestiality is so bad, please do me the favor of cutting and pasting whatever rebuttal you've come up with.
    From the 70s? Really? I think society might have changed a touch since then.
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    Re: Gay Republican Group Prompts Split Among Conservatives

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    You haven't really said anything this whole thread, except how, by granting people equal rights, you will lose rights. Which is so ****ing absurd it's not even remotely imaginable.
    Where are you even getting the notion that homosexuals have a right to have officially recognized marriages? There's not even any proof that homosexuality is genetic, and therefore sodomites have no more 'right' to marriage than incest.

    According to the American Psychological Association, "There is no consensus among scientists about the exact reasons that an individual develops a heterosexual, bisexual, gay or lesbian orientation. Although much research has examined the possible genetic, hormonal, developmental, social, and cultural influences on sexual orientation, no findings have emerged that permit scientists to conclude that sexual orientation is determined by any particular factor or factors."
    And according to the Gay Report by gay researchers Karla Jay and Allen Young, roughly 20% of homosexual men and 17% of lesbians are in sexual relationships with members of the opposite sex. Also, 13% of gay men and 18% of lesbians have biological children from having straight sex, which deals a huge blow to the claim that homosexuals can't do it with the opposite sex.

    Now, I know this is a big request, but try to refute me using some actual facts, not feelings or "someone told me" or some claim that I'm being ridiculous. Perhaps you could quote some source worthy of a school paper? I look forward to a worthy rebuttal.
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