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    Re: Gay Republican Group Prompts Split Among Conservatives

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    Yes and no. You are correct in suggesting the tea partiers are concerned with issues of economics but they are also concerned with teh proper role of the federal government. Others believe the republican party should continue to press the social issues so dear to so many of us at a national level.

    I'm of the opinion we should at least attempt to de-nationalize the social issues. I see no reason why the national government or even the supreme court for that matter should be involved in issues such as abortion and gay marriage. I see this as more of an issue that should be left up to the states and their peoples to decide by democratic means. If the peoples of the northeast and west coast want gay marriage and abortion let them have it. Just give the rest of us the same consideration.
    That I completely agree with. I believe the same on the abortion issue too. Both issues belong to the states, and not the Federal government.
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    Re: Gay Republican Group Prompts Split Among Conservatives

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    Yes and no. You are correct in suggesting the tea partiers are concerned with issues of economics but they are also concerned with teh proper role of the federal government. Others believe the republican party should continue to press the social issues so dear to so many of us at a national level.

    I'm of the opinion we should at least attempt to de-nationalize the social issues. I see no reason why the national government or even the supreme court for that matter should be involved in issues such as abortion and gay marriage. I see this as more of an issue that should be left up to the states and their peoples to decide by democratic means. If the peoples of the northeast and west coast want gay marriage and abortion let them have it. Just give the rest of us the same consideration.
    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    That I completely agree with. I believe the same on the abortion issue too. Both issues belong to the states, and not the Federal government.
    I agree as well but with a caveat:

    Should unborn babies have the right to life? If you answer yes doesn’t the federal government have a responsibility to protect that right?

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    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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    Re: Gay Republican Group Prompts Split Among Conservatives

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    Yes and no. You are correct in suggesting the tea partiers are concerned with issues of economics but they are also concerned with teh proper role of the federal government. Others believe the republican party should continue to press the social issues so dear to so many of us at a national level.

    I'm of the opinion we should at least attempt to de-nationalize the social issues. I see no reason why the national government or even the supreme court for that matter should be involved in issues such as abortion and gay marriage. I see this as more of an issue that should be left up to the states and their peoples to decide by democratic means. If the peoples of the northeast and west coast want gay marriage and abortion let them have it. Just give the rest of us the same consideration.
    I suspect you also realize the very real potential for such issues to rip the GOP in two and do not want to see that happen.
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    Re: Gay Republican Group Prompts Split Among Conservatives

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I suspect you also realize the very real potential for such issues to rip the GOP in two and do not want to see that happen.
    Well, then the thing for people like me to do is to abandon lgbt folks to their fate and reestablish solidarity with social conservatives.

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    Re: Gay Republican Group Prompts Split Among Conservatives

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    [SIZE="3"][FONT="Book Antiqua"]Yes and no. You are correct in suggesting the tea partiers are concerned with issues of economics but they are also concerned with teh proper role of the federal government. Others believe the republican party should continue to press the social issues so dear to so many of us at a national level.
    sure, fine, but of the 66 republicans who turned out 66 democrats on tsunami tuesday there were zero who elevated social positions to a platform priority

    almost all ran against pelosi, obamacare, cap and trade, taxes and spending...

    I'm of the opinion we should at least attempt to de-nationalize the social issues. I see no reason why the national government or even the supreme court for that matter should be involved in issues such as abortion and gay marriage. I see this as more of an issue that should be left up to the states and their peoples to decide by democratic means. If the peoples of the northeast and west coast want gay marriage and abortion let them have it. Just give the rest of us the same consideration.
    most tea partiers agree with you, yes, but they are today hands-full fighting issues more exigent

    and their hands are full, politically, with WINNING cards

    allen west, kristi noem, tim scott, patrick duffy, rick berg, martha roby, renee ellmers, scott tipton, jon runyan, et al, are too smart to shoot the moon

    social issues will hardly raise their head in the 112th, which is not a bad thing if we're successful on the fronts we fix

    keep watching

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    Re: Gay Republican Group Prompts Split Among Conservatives

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    Well, then the thing for people like me to do is to abandon lgbt folks to their fate and reestablish solidarity with social conservatives.
    I'm not advocating that. If you are a liberal by all means continue to be so. I'm not asking anyone to abandon their cultural beliefs. That would just be silly.
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    Re: Gay Republican Group Prompts Split Among Conservatives

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    I suspect you also realize the very real potential for such issues to rip the GOP in two and do not want to see that happen.
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    Re: Gay Republican Group Prompts Split Among Conservatives

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    I agree as well but with a caveat:

    Should unborn babies have the right to life? If you answer yes doesn’t the federal government have a responsibility to protect that right?
    Yes, except in the case of rape, incest or the health of the mother. I don't wish to deny anyone the right to live but there must be a balance with the mothers rights as well.
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    Re: Gay Republican Group Prompts Split Among Conservatives

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    Reagan had his own phrase for gays - American citizens.
    I agree with reagan on this one, gays are citizens too.
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    Re: Gay Republican Group Prompts Split Among Conservatives

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    Yes and no. You are correct in suggesting the tea partiers are concerned with issues of economics but they are also concerned with teh proper role of the federal government. Others believe the republican party should continue to press the social issues so dear to so many of us at a national level.

    I'm of the opinion we should at least attempt to de-nationalize the social issues. I see no reason why the national government or even the supreme court for that matter should be involved in issues such as abortion and gay marriage. I see this as more of an issue that should be left up to the states and their peoples to decide by democratic means. If the peoples of the northeast and west coast want gay marriage and abortion let them have it. Just give the rest of us the same consideration.
    LMAO
    that makes no sense, you ALREADY have it!
    if gay rights, just like abortion was legal in the us, YOU lose nothing.

    YOU still don't have to get an abortion.
    YOU still don't have to have a same sex marriage.

    So how aren't YOU consider for?

    What a joke, when it becomes legal, EVERYONE gets their way and nothing is FORCED on you, you will still be free to not like it, think its a sin, think its gross, or whatever YOU want

    If it stayed not legal only YOU get YOUR way and YOU get to FORCE YOUR views on OTHERS.

    Sorry, in reality considerations for you will remain 100% in tact, its a fallacy to think otherwise.
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