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    Re: Gay Republican Group Prompts Split Among Conservatives

    will do, ill bail out then because I have no intrest in this thread other than discussing why people think its ok to discriminate against gays

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    Re: Gay Republican Group Prompts Split Among Conservatives

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Ah. I have no interest in rewarding anyone for being who they are.

    Simply giving what is deserved.

    If you can tell me one good reason why gays shouldn't be allowed to marry, or serve in the military, I may agree with you. But they cause no harm to anyone, they are decent, law abiding people just like the rest of us.
    I don't think so. Rewarding "special demographics" is what american liberals/leftists do. Not us. We should stick to the idea that all americans should/can succeed in life based on a commitment, to individual initiative, and personal responsibility not political patronage. (i borrowed heavily from andrew klaven on this)

    If you want to debate the negative effects of modern humanist culture on traditional culture why don't we have a seperate thread on that?
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    Re: Gay Republican Group Prompts Split Among Conservatives

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    I have no intrest in this thread other than discussing why people think its ok to discriminate against gays
    doj BRIEFS filed in summer, 09, provide HOLDER'S reasons for "discriminating"

    but if you prefer the closely considered conceptions of the 60-second-click-and-submit crowd, more power to you

    party on, happy new year

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    Re: Gay Republican Group Prompts Split Among Conservatives

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    Im sorry did I say they ALL were? nope, thats right I didnt LMAO nice jump though
    If you read the link you will see the majority identified themselves as religious so YES religion played a role and lead the charge to discriminate. Thanks

    "Religious groups led the tightly organized campaign for the measure, and religious voters were decisive in getting it passed. Of the seven in 10 voters who described themselves as Christian, two-thirds backed the initiative."


    also those people dont matter when it comes to discrimination they are wrong.
    Depending on which polls you choose, 70-80% of Americans still identify themselves as Christian whether they attend church or not. Democrats vote against gay marriage. People of all races vote against gay marriage. The majority of people when the issue is put to a vote consistently vote against gay marriage. Take whatever spin you want, but that is the undeniable reality. Maybe its a moral opposition. Maybe they are evolutionists and cant abide by an act that defies natural laws of procreation and continuance of the species. Maybe they are science based and concerned that (supposedly) 5% of the populations still make up such a large percentage of HIV/AIDS victims or that they have to take action not to prevent unwanted pregnancy but from killing their partner.

    But where the OP is concerned...since thats where this started...the OP is simply biased if it is focused on Republicans and their acceptance/tolerance of homosexuals (not acceptance of gay marriage...two very different things). The reality is that aside from exploiting homosexuals for their votes, democrats have people in their midst that consistently take on the same positions re homosexuals and homosexuality. Nothing but love for them...hope for their happiness...still dont agree with their choices, nor embrace it as 'right' or a societal norm. Right for them? Sure...fine...and know peace and happiness.

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    Re: Gay Republican Group Prompts Split Among Conservatives

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Really? It's all the liberal media's fault now?
    What? I certainly never said, nor was I implying any such thing. I just pointed out something that I felt was politically relevant, since this is a political discussion forum.

    And it's just religious grounds? Even though FRC stated "However, we will no longer be involved with CPAC because of the organization's financial mismanagement and movement away from conservative principles"? (source: warning, WorldNutDaily link: Biggest conservative names bidding goodbye to CPAC) Sounds like their reason was political to me, by their own words made to a conservative media outlet.
    Concerning their objections about GOProud attending CPAC, yes, it's based solely on religious grounds and has nothing to do with political doctrine. That's all I was talking about.

    I just didn't want anyone trying to associate their objection to GOProud, to conservative political beliefs.

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    Re: Gay Republican Group Prompts Split Among Conservatives

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    I don't think so. Rewarding "special demographics" is what american liberals/leftists do. Not us. We should stick to the idea that all americans should/can succeed in life based on a commitment, to individual initiative, and personal responsibility not political patronage. (i borrowed heavily from andrew klaven on this)

    If you want to debate the negative effects of modern humanist culture on traditional culture why don't we have a seperate thread on that?
    Jesus H. Christ. You really are delusional aren't you?

    Giving people equal rights is a reward is it?

    Fantastic.

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    Re: Gay Republican Group Prompts Split Among Conservatives

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Jesus H. Christ. You really are delusional aren't you?

    Giving people equal rights is a reward is it?

    Fantastic.
    Marriage is a special right that nobody else has, but gays want.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Gay Republican Group Prompts Split Among Conservatives

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Jesus H. Christ. You really are delusional aren't you?

    Giving people equal rights is a reward is it?

    Fantastic.
    There's no law gainst gays getting married. The state just won't issue them a marriage license. They can get married all they want.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Gay Republican Group Prompts Split Among Conservatives

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    There's no law gainst gays getting married. The state just won't issue them a marriage license. They can get married all they want.
    ... you do realize that the denial of marriage licenses is the key point of contention, right?

    Of course you knew that. You just decided to interject something ridiculous anyway.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Gay Republican Group Prompts Split Among Conservatives

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Jesus H. Christ. You really are delusional aren't you?

    Giving people equal rights is a reward is it?

    Fantastic.
    Changing a cultural institution that's existed for thousands of years because of political patronage constitutes a reward. Calling me names doesn't change that fact or reflect well on your political stance, tho I've come to expect it of many american liberals/leftists.
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