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    Vice Admiral: Obama was outmaneuvered by Russians on START

    President Barack Obama was outmaneuvered by the Russians and should have abandoned the New START negotiations instead of seeking a political victory, says former nuclear plans monitor Vice Admiral Jerry Miller, USN (Ret).

    “The Obama administration is continuing a dated policy in which we cannot even unilaterally reduce our own inventory of weapons and delivery systems without being on parity with the Russians,” Miller told the U.S. Naval Institute in Annapolis, Md. “We could give up plenty of deployed delivery systems and not adversely affect our national security one bit, but New START prohibits such action - so we are now stuck with some outmoded and useless elements in our nuke force.”

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    Re: Vice Admiral: Obama was outmaneuvered by Russians on START

    Way to protect your country, Mr. President.

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    Re: Vice Admiral: Obama was outmaneuvered by Russians on START

    What kind of dumb **** would sign a treaty that outlawed missile defense systems? Obama's a joke.
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    Re: Vice Admiral: Obama was outmaneuvered by Russians on START

    Yeah, right? What kind of dumb***.

    Except - Obama didn't sign a treaty that did that, and that's not what the Vice Admiral is complaining about.
    Check for yourself: http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/140035.pdf

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    Re: Vice Admiral: Obama was outmaneuvered by Russians on START

    Quote Originally Posted by MoleMan View Post
    Yeah, right? What kind of dumb***.

    Except - Obama didn't sign a treaty that did that, and that's not what the Vice Admiral is complaining about.
    Check for yourself: http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/140035.pdf
    It sounds like that's what Miller is complaining about.

    “The treaty prohibits the conversion of an existing ballistic missile system into a missile defense system,” said Miller. “We might want to do that with a Trident or an ICBM sometime in the future, particularly if the Chinese alleged threat materializes.”
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    Re: Vice Admiral: Obama was outmaneuvered by Russians on START

    Obama is trash. Absolute trash. He needs to just go away and pass away in his sleep.

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    Re: Vice Admiral: Obama was outmaneuvered by Russians on START

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It sounds like that's what Miller is complaining about.
    Ah, you're right. I should've read the article closely.

    Nonetheless, the treaty's only limitation on missile defense systems is that ICBM/SLBM launchers cannot be converted for placement of "missile defense interceptors."

    Henry A. Kissinger, George P. Shultz, James A. Baker III, Lawrence S. Eagleburger and Colin L. Powell - The Republican case for ratifying New START

    According to this article, written by 5 secretaries of state for Republican administrations, converting existing launchers is not cost efficient and is less effective than building new ones, and our military leadership does not want to convert them.

    So, the treaty doesn't outlaw missile defense systems, but I'm sure this has no bearing on your opinion of Obama - or the treaty, for that matter.

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    Re: Vice Admiral: Obama was outmaneuvered by Russians on START

    Quote Originally Posted by MoleMan View Post
    Ah, you're right. I should've read the article closely.

    Nonetheless, the treaty's only limitation on missile defense systems is that ICBM/SLBM launchers cannot be converted for placement of "missile defense interceptors."

    Henry A. Kissinger, George P. Shultz, James A. Baker III, Lawrence S. Eagleburger and Colin L. Powell - The Republican case for ratifying New START

    According to this article, written by 5 secretaries of state for Republican administrations, converting existing launchers is not cost efficient and is less effective than building new ones, and our military leadership does not want to convert them.

    So, the treaty doesn't outlaw missile defense systems, but I'm sure this has no bearing on your opinion of Obama - or the treaty, for that matter.
    What you've posted isn't true.

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    Re: Vice Admiral: Obama was outmaneuvered by Russians on START

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    What kind of dumb **** would sign a treaty that outlawed missile defense systems? Obama's a joke.
    The treaty does not outlaw missile defense systems.
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