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    Re: Vice Admiral: Obama was outmaneuvered by Russians on START

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    Re: Vice Admiral: Obama was outmaneuvered by Russians on START

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Both sides agree that existing defensive weapons to not undermine the offensive capabilities of existing stockpiles. Ergo, the treaty does not outlaw missile defense systems.

    The one "limitation" the treaty does spell out is that we can't convert old launchers into interceptors... something the DOD has already expressed it wasn't planning to do anyway because it's cheaper and easier just to build new interceptors.
    Yes, it does. Otherwise, there wouldn't be anything in the treaty about defensive ballistic missiles.

    Even the Russians admit that the part about outlawing defensive missile systems is legally binding.

    Russian media: The missile defense provision in the new START treaty is legally binding Hot Air
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    Re: Vice Admiral: Obama was outmaneuvered by Russians on START

    Quote Originally Posted by Kev316 View Post
    WLS, am890, is Chicago's 50,000 watt blowtorch. Here's the lineup: Limbaugh, Hannity, Levin.
    WIND am560 is Chicago's #2 blowtorch. Here's the lineup: Beck, Dennis Miller, Michael Medved, Michael Savage, Hue Hewitt, Mike Ghallagher, Dennis Prager.

    Pretty sweet, huh? Yup, am radio. Don't even need Fox.
    We have all of the above here, and Laura Ingraham, and a slew of locals who follow exactly the same format from the same angle. For a while Gordon Liddy and Oliver North were on daily, don't know if they are still. (I don't know why anyone would hire Gordon Liddy for public speaking, as he is a known felon and bedbug).

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    Re: Vice Admiral: Obama was outmaneuvered by Russians on START

    Quote Originally Posted by tryreading View Post
    We have all of the above here, and Laura Ingraham, and a slew of locals who follow exactly the same format from the same angle. For a while Gordon Liddy and Oliver North were on daily, don't know if they are still. (I don't know why anyone would hire Gordon Liddy for public speaking, as he is a known felon and bedbug).

    AM radio here in Central Florida is certain brain death. You can't learn from it. You can only be told what to believe based on the airing of selective facts.
    I bet ya'll the same cats that thought Obamacare wasn't going to pay for public funded abortions, too.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Vice Admiral: Obama was outmaneuvered by Russians on START

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I bet ya'll the same cats that thought Obamacare wasn't going to pay for public funded abortions, too.
    You one of those guys that thinks missile defense works?



    Its fun to argue that way, but here are the facts:

    1. Abortions will be funded by national health care, unless there are legislative changes.
    2. Missile defense does not work.



    (The former will be discussed truthfully on AM talk radio, the latter will certainly not)
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    Re: Vice Admiral: Obama was outmaneuvered by Russians on START

    Quote Originally Posted by tryreading View Post
    You one of those guys that thinks missile defense works?



    Its fun to argue that way, but here are the facts:

    1. Abortions will be funded by national health care, unless there are legislative changes.
    2. Missile defense does not work.



    (The former will be discussed truthfully on AM talk radio, the latter will certainly not)
    there's no evidence that missile defense systems don't work...LOL
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Vice Admiral: Obama was outmaneuvered by Russians on START

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    Spud,

    I just got three infraction points responding to you in another thread, as well as a thread ban. Don't talk to me again.
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    Re: Vice Admiral: Obama was outmaneuvered by Russians on START

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Weak and inexperienced is as weak and inexperienced does.

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    This proves my point on conservatives. They spend 90% of their time complaining and 5% reading the data / information they base their complaints about and 5% trying to make America a better place.

    This treaty does NOT dissallow missle defense systems. Talk about weak and inexperienced.

    I would go further indepth but alas I have to go to the washroom and then hit the sack.
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    Re: Vice Admiral: Obama was outmaneuvered by Russians on START

    Actually - I don't care about the anti-missile system. I think it's flawed and unlikely to actually work if we're under an attack - nor would it be sufficient or even likely to be called upon quickly enough.

    A Test is one thing

    In reality - it's another.

    But this does bother me here:
    7. Each Party shall have the right to conduct inspections in connection with the elimination of heavy ICBMs and their launch canisters, as well as inspections in connection with the conversion of silo launchers of heavy ICBMS. Except as otherwise provided for in the Elimination and Conversion Protocol, such inspections shall be conducted subject to the applicable provisions of the START Treaty.
    We had a similar provision with Iraq - and when that provision was violated it built on itself and culminated into a war which no one supported.

    Some of the treaty is just stupid - like requiring the number of housed onboard warheads be equal to it's number of housed onboard nuclear warhead.

    And there are several outs and options for modifying and altering - including this, the last provision:

    4. Each Party shall, in exercising its national sovereignty, have the right to withdraw from this Treaty if it decides that extraordinary events related to the subject matter of this Treaty have jeopardized its supreme interests. It shall give notice of its decision to the other Party six months prior to withdrawal from this Treaty. Such notice shall include a statement of the extraordinary events the notifying Party regards as having jeopardized its supreme interests.
    So the following Republican President can and likely will alter certain parts of this Treaty to revert to it's original stage.
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    Re: Vice Admiral: Obama was outmaneuvered by Russians on START

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    This proves my point on conservatives. They spend 90% of their time complaining and 5% reading the data / information they base their complaints about and 5% trying to make America a better place.

    This treaty does NOT dissallow missle defense systems. Talk about weak and inexperienced.

    I would go further indepth but alas I have to go to the washroom and then hit the sack.
    The Russians say that it does. I guess they got it wrong, too?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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