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    Re: Vice Admiral: Obama was outmaneuvered by Russians on START

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    Actually missile defense may never work. An example:

    Let's say your MD can block 500 missiles. All I have to do if fire 500 dummy (or conventional missiles) then I fire my nukes and BOOM!
    Yeah, I understand. The hope has to be that we continue to work with other powers to reduce numbers.
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    Re: Vice Admiral: Obama was outmaneuvered by Russians on START

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    Yet...is the operative word.
    Yet is definitely the operative word. And until we actually can make it work, let's don't pretend it works.
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    Re: Vice Admiral: Obama was outmaneuvered by Russians on START

    Quote Originally Posted by tryreading View Post
    Yet is definitely the operative word.
    Agreed. Practice makes perfect.

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    Re: Vice Admiral: Obama was outmaneuvered by Russians on START

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    Agreed. Practice makes perfect.
    But there seem to be quite a few people who think it works now. I don't know why they believe this. I think its fun to burst that bubble.
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    Re: Vice Admiral: Obama was outmaneuvered by Russians on START

    Quote Originally Posted by tryreading View Post
    But there seem to be quite a few people who think it works now. I don't know why they believe this. I think its fun to burst that bubble.
    They don't understand the nature of the different types of ballistic missiles, the difference between theater defense and national defense, and the difference in intercept phases.

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    Re: Vice Admiral: Obama was outmaneuvered by Russians on START

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    They don't understand the nature of the different types of ballistic missiles, the difference between theater defense and national defense, and the difference in intercept phases.
    I don't understand much of that stuff either, but I know that the defense systems do not work.
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    Re: Vice Admiral: Obama was outmaneuvered by Russians on START

    Quote Originally Posted by tryreading View Post
    I don't understand much of that stuff either, but I know that the defense systems do not work.
    Theater ballistic missile defenses appear to work. That's because they catch the missile during it's vulnerable lift phase...SM-3.
    The PAC-3 system seems to work against IRBMs. I don't know about THAAD.
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    Re: Vice Admiral: Obama was outmaneuvered by Russians on START

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    Theater ballistic missile defenses appear to work. That's because they catch the missile during it's vulnerable lift phase...SM-3.
    The PAC-3 system seems to work against IRBMs. I don't know about THAAD.
    Some day I'll look up these complicated things you speak of.
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    Re: Vice Admiral: Obama was outmaneuvered by Russians on START

    Anyone who thinks they are posting current info on what our missile defense capabilities currently are is deluded or about to go to prison.

    The Russians aren’t worried about us shooting down a scud or a Taepodong-2, they are worried that we could build a system sophisticated enough to shoot down enough of their missiles that it would unhinge the MAD philosophy and give the USA first strike capabilities.

    That’s why communists, socialists and liberals oppose US missile defense.

    By the way, it’s pretty lame to argue that we shouldn’t develop/perfect a system simply because it isn’t perfect in the early stages.

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    Re: Vice Admiral: Obama was outmaneuvered by Russians on START

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    Anyone who thinks they are posting current info on what our missile defense capabilities currently are is deluded or about to go to prison.

    The Russians aren’t worried about us shooting down a scud or a Taepodong-2, they are worried that we could build a system sophisticated enough to shoot down enough of their missiles that it would unhinge the MAD philosophy and give the USA first strike capabilities.

    That’s why communists, socialists and liberals oppose US missile defense.

    By the way, it’s pretty lame to argue that we shouldn’t develop/perfect a system simply because it isn’t perfect in the early stages.
    I fail to see why you would want to destroy a stable system of mutually assured destruction.

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