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    I have a copy of mine from 1959, so you can't tell me that it's impossible.
    What are you claiming is not impossible?
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    What are you claiming is not impossible?
    That a copy of his actual birth cert is available. I know they have one somewhere.
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    That a copy of his actual birth cert is available. I know they have one somewhere.

    And you
    "know they have one somewhere"
    because ... because ... because of what exactly?


    Perhaps there is some distinction to you - and to the people who persist in this cause celebre of the right wing - but what exactly is wrong with the Official Certification of Birth that is easy to find on the net from the state of Hawaii, the statements from Hawaiian officials authenticating it, the notice in the newspaper at the time of his birth in Hawaii and the acceptance of all those things by every responsible official who has seen them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    And you because ... because ... because of what exactly?


    Perhaps there is some distinction to you - and to the people who persist in this cause celebre of the right wing - but what exactly is wrong with the Official Certification of Birth that is easy to find on the net from the state of Hawaii, the statements from Hawaiian officials authenticating it, the notice in the newspaper at the time of his birth in Hawaii and the acceptance of all those things by every responsible official who has seen them?
    Because it leave open questions from those who find the CoLB insufficent proof. And archived actual birth cert was kill all questions. Please, don't lump me in the birthers, I've said all along that the CoLB is legally sufficient. You're also the last person in a position to question anyone's bias.
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    Re: Supremes facing eligibility challenge to Obama, again

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Because it leave open questions from those who find the CoLB insufficent proof. And archived actual birth cert was kill all questions. Please, don't lump me in the birthers, I've said all along that the CoLB is legally sufficient. You're also the last person in a position to question anyone's bias.
    I would imagine that VERY FEW people in their 40s have their original birth certificate with them anymore, and with at least two international moves, I suspect that it is highly unlikely Obama would have the original birth certificate... I know I don't have mine...
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    news on this issue today from the NY TImes


    Hawaii’s Governor Takes On ‘Birthers’
    By SHERYL GAY STOLBERG
    Published: December 24, 2010


    HONOLULU — Gov. Neil Abercrombie of Hawaii, who befriended President Obama’s parents when they were university students here, has been in office for less than three weeks. But he is so incensed over “birthers” — the conspiracy theorists who assert that Mr. Obama was born in Kenya and was thus not eligible to become president — that he is seeking ways to change state policy to allow him to release additional proof that the president was born in Honolulu in 1961.



    Gov. Neil Abercrombie knew President Obama's parents and said he saw him as a baby.



    Neil Abercrombie and his wife, Nancie Caraway before the inauguration ceremony on Dec. 6 in Honolulu.
    “It’s an insult to his mother and to his father, and I knew his mother and father; they were my friends, and I have an emotional interest in that,” Governor Abercrombie said in a telephone interview late Thursday. “It’s an emotional insult. It is disrespectful to the president; it is disrespectful to the office.”

    The governor, a Democrat and former congressman, said he has initiated conversations with the state’s attorney general and the chief of its Health Department about how he can release more explicit documentation of Mr. Obama’s birth on Aug. 4, 1961, at Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital. He said he has done so of his own accord, without consulting the White House, which declined to comment.

    “He’s a big boy; he can take sticks and stones. But there’s no reason on earth to have the memory of his parents insulted by people whose motivation is solely political,” Mr. Abercrombie said. “Let’s put this particular canard to rest.”
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    Re: Supremes facing eligibility challenge to Obama, again

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    I would imagine that VERY FEW people in their 40s have their original birth certificate with them anymore, and with at least two international moves, I suspect that it is highly unlikely Obama would have the original birth certificate... I know I don't have mine...
    1. I am not a birther and have no doubt President Obama is a natural born citizen

    2. I am 51 and have my original birth certificate as do all of my 3 siblings, 2 older 1 younger.

    3. My parents are both deceased, but were born in 1926 and I have their original birth certificates as well.

    It would surprise me if having your original birth certificate was uncommon
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    Re: Supremes facing eligibility challenge to Obama, again

    The real issue is why Sham Wow refuses to release his records from Occidental College and Columbia. Its not like he has an argument for that given how often he and his supporters have crowed about his admirable record at the Harvard Law School and his masterful political skills resulting in him being elected president of the law review despite never having a note published in that prestigious journal. He all know he was a Magna at HLS meaning he was in the top 15 or 20% of the 550 so graduates of what is universally regarded as one of the 2 or 3 best law schools in the nation.



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    Re: Supremes facing eligibility challenge to Obama, again

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    The real issue is why Sham Wow refuses to release his records from Occidental College and Columbia. Its not like he has an argument for that given how often he and his supporters have crowed about his admirable record at the Harvard Law School and his masterful political skills resulting in him being elected president of the law review despite never having a note published in that prestigious journal. He all know he was a Magna at HLS meaning he was in the top 15 or 20% of the 550 so graduates of what is universally regarded as one of the 2 or 3 best law schools in the nation.

    What about the theory that he won't release them because he attended Occidental College on a scholarship for foreign exchange students?
    Not a birther..just asking. If it's true it could just mean he lied to get the scholarship. Otherwise, I don't why he doesn't just release his records.
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    Re: Supremes facing eligibility challenge to Obama, again

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    I would imagine that VERY FEW people in their 40s have their original birth certificate with them anymore, and with at least two international moves, I suspect that it is highly unlikely Obama would have the original birth certificate... I know I don't have mine...
    I have mine and I'm beyond my 40's.
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