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    Re: Obama Signs Bill To Extend Bush Tax Cuts

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    So if I do not like having headaches the way out is suicide? Gee let me think about that?


    No thanks.
    You are against a flat tax because it would prevent dems from using promises of higher rates on the rich to buy the votes of the unproductive and non-tax paying voters?



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    Re: Obama Signs Bill To Extend Bush Tax Cuts

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    They use that fairness crap even though under any objective definition the rich are treated unfairly-in order to advance their class warfare pandering to the untalented and unlucky in order to buy votes
    or another way to put it

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    Re: Obama Signs Bill To Extend Bush Tax Cuts

    I am wondering why some of the class warfare types are against the flat tax? Is it due to the fact that dem politicians lose t he ability to buy votes by promising the many that only the taxes of the few will go up? Under a flat tax, the poor will have a tax free limit (usually 15 to 20K from what I have seen) and the rich will still pay far far more.



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    Re: Obama Signs Bill To Extend Bush Tax Cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I take it that you are not unemployed and getting benefits?
    No, even if I were, I wouldn't be pushing for the rich to pay more taxes.
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    Re: Obama Signs Bill To Extend Bush Tax Cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I am wondering why some of the class warfare types are against the flat tax? Is it due to the fact that dem politicians lose t he ability to buy votes by promising the many that only the taxes of the few will go up? Under a flat tax, the poor will have a tax free limit (usually 15 to 20K from what I have seen) and the rich will still pay far far more.
    You remind me of that old singer O.C Smith who has one record "Little Green Apples" and sang it for thirty-five years with nothing else to go with it.

    The rich would pay less actual tax dollars under the flat tax by most estimations. Why else would wealthy industrialists like Forbes be pushing it? Its all a matter of greedy self interest with them ... and you also.
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    Re: Obama Signs Bill To Extend Bush Tax Cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You remind me of that old singer O.C Smith who has one record "Little Green Apples" and sang it for thirty-five years with nothing else to go with it.

    The rich would pay less actual tax dollars under the flat tax by most estimations. Why else would wealthy industrialists like Forbes be pushing it? Its all a matter of greedy self interest with them ... and you also.
    your last four or five posts don't address what I say or refute my points-they merely complain that I am repetitive which is hilarious



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    Re: Obama Signs Bill To Extend Bush Tax Cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    your last four or five posts don't address what I say or refute my points-they merely complain that I am repetitive which is hilarious
    Your claims have been refuted time and time and time again. All you have to do is go back and read the first 500 times you made these points and what followed from many people destroying your claims.

    Just go to the thread in the Polls section where your idea about connecting the vote to the income tax was soundly defeated. Its there for you to see.
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    Re: Obama Signs Bill To Extend Bush Tax Cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Your claims have been refuted time and time and time again. All you have to do is go back and read the first 500 times you made these points and what followed from many people destroying your claims.

    Just go to the thread in the Polls section where your idea about connecting the vote to the income tax was soundly defeated. Its there for you to see.

    1) refute-you don't agree with it-nothing more nothing less. How can you "refute" my belief that America would be better off with a system where we reject the constant catering to the unproductive and the addicted? You cannot. You want democrats to win elections, I do not. The current system gives democrat politicians far more advantages than they would have if they were forced to raise taxes on EVERYONE to pay for the social programs that they use to buy the votes of those who are net tax consumers

    2) polls mean nothing. that doesn't mean I am wrong especially in a system where the many are able to get the money of the few.

    No one has destroyed my claims and your constant appeal to quantity rather than quality is a testament to the mindset of the lowest common denominator welfare socialist. Four parasites saying that they want the wealth of one producer is hardly an argument that looting is correct even if inevitable



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    Re: Obama Signs Bill To Extend Bush Tax Cuts

    Here is the fact that blows you out of the water

    The total federal, state and local effective tax rate for the richest one percent of Americans (30.9 percent) is only slightly higher than the average effective tax rate for the remaining 99 percent of Americans (29.4 percent).

    Got that. There is no excessive tax burden on the rich while others are getting off free and paying nothing. Your attempt to use one tax to make that case is smoke and mirrors designed to create a false impression that simply vanishes like smoke in the wind when the entire picture of taxation in America is looked at.

    All your hyperbole about parasites and free-loaders and welfare dependent people not paying is simply NOT TRUE when ALL TAXATION in this country is looked at.

    You badly need a new song becuase the one you have been singing is played out.
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    Re: Obama Signs Bill To Extend Bush Tax Cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Here is the fact that blows you out of the water

    The total federal, state and local effective tax rate for the richest one percent of Americans (30.9 percent) is only slightly higher than the average effective tax rate for the remaining 99 percent of Americans (29.4 percent).

    Got that. There is no excessive tax burden on the rich while others are getting off free and paying nothing. Your attempt to use one tax to make that case is smoke and mirrors designed to create a false impression that simply vanishes like smoke in the wind when the entire picture of taxation in America is looked at.

    All your hyperbole about parasites and free-loaders and welfare dependent people not paying is simply NOT TRUE when ALL TAXATION in this country is looked at.

    You badly need a new song becuase the one you have been singing is played out.
    sorry that crap doesn't cut it when that biased left wing study tries to claim that every possible thing is "taxes" when the issue is the income tax burden. Local taxes are not part of the debate on federal tax issues-the issues that are main talking points in federal elections.

    if someone pays 100 dollars for every dollar of government services they receive and another person pays a few cents for every dollar of government services they receive, the former is over taxed and the latter is a free loader. Your idiotic study-funded by a far left welfare-socialist group fails to deal with that.



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