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    Re: 9/11 First responders speak out on 'Daily Show'

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    And boy are we sick of hearing that canard. "If only the Dems held together 100% then they would not need a few paltry GOP votes to succeed"

    Yup, lets blame the 90% trying to get something done for holding firm and let off the entire opposition for being united and the Party of No.

    Progress WHO - at least you did not defend the GOP for kissing the behinds of corporate America.
    Speaking of kissing corporate American ass, how about that healthcare law?
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    Speaking of kissing corporate American ass, how about that healthcare law?
    Good point. Giving in on the public option issue was a prime example of buttkissing the health insurance corporations.
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    Re: 9/11 First responders speak out on 'Daily Show'

    Looks like the misnamed U.S. Chamber of Commerce was behind the effort to kill this bill.

    ThinkProgress ‘U.S.’ Chamber Of Commerce Lobbied To Help GOP Kill Bill To Provide Health Care To 9/11 First Responders

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    While Republicans quietly snuffed out efforts to compensate 9/11 heroes, they were aided by a quiet lobbying campaign by the powerful lobbying front — the U.S. Chamber of Commerce.

    The Chamber fought to help kill the 9/11 compensation bill because it was funded by ending a special tax loophole exploited by foreign corporations doing business in the United States.

    The “U.S.” part of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce is a misnomer. As ThinkProgress reported, the Chamber represents dozens of foreign businesses in the United Kingdom, France, Germany, Russia, Bahrain, India, Brazil, and other countries. An investigation of the Chamber turned up recent fundraising documents from the Chamber soliciting foreign contributions to the Chamber’s 501(c)(6), the tax entity the Chamber used to run nasty campaign ads against Democrats earlier this year.

    In September, the Chamber sent a letter officially opposing the 9/11 first responders bill, called the “James Zadroga 9/11 Health and Compensation Act of 2010.” The Chamber warned that ending the tax loophole would “damage U.S. relationships with major trading partners” and “aggravate already unsettled financial markets.” A lobbying disclosure filed with the Senate confirms the Chamber contacted lawmakers to help kill the bill.

    In typical fashion, the Chamber has not revealed which of its foreign members had asked them to kill the 9/11 bill. As the Chamber CEO explained to the Washington Monthly’s James Verini, the entire purpose of the Chamber is to provide “deniability” to corporations that want to affect the outcomes of elections or of public policy. In 2009, the Chamber secretly used a $86 million donation from the health insurance industry to fight health reform. At the time, the Chamber lied and claimed to the public that they were simply acting on behalf of the entire “business community.”

    Republicans are continuing to protest any renewed attempts to pass the 9/11 first responders bill because of the tax issue raised by the Chamber. Yesterday, Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME) sent out a statement that mirrored the Chamber’s opposition to ending the foreign corporate tax loophole.
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    Re: 9/11 First responders speak out on 'Daily Show'

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Looks like the misnamed U.S. Chamber of Commerce was behind the effort to kill this bill.

    ThinkProgress ‘U.S.’ Chamber Of Commerce Lobbied To Help GOP Kill Bill To Provide Health Care To 9/11 First Responders

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    So the chamber of commerce loves its tax loophole more than the 9/11 first responders. Nice.
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    Re: 9/11 First responders speak out on 'Daily Show'

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Good point. Giving in on the public option issue was a prime example of buttkissing the health insurance corporations.
    Oh, you mean the socialist option.
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    Re: 9/11 First responders speak out on 'Daily Show'

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Oh, you mean the socialist option.
    You mean like they have in Spain? I didn't know that was even on the table.
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    Re: 9/11 First responders speak out on 'Daily Show'

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Looks like the misnamed U.S. Chamber of Commerce was behind the effort to kill this bill.

    ThinkProgress ‘U.S.’ Chamber Of Commerce Lobbied To Help GOP Kill Bill To Provide Health Care To 9/11 First Responders

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    'behind it'? Like, they were the driving force? You're really not very good at this, are you...

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1059170895

    "We are on the verge of a Christmas miracle," said Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, D-N.Y.

    Gillibrand and Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., are offering a less-costly alternative to the original bill to aid 9/11 responders and survivors, saying that they believe it will gain needed support from the GOP...

    Republicans have raised concerns about the original bill's cost and how to pay for it. The new bill's cost is scaled back from $7.4 billion over 10 years to $6.2 billion...

    The original bill would have required multinational companies incorporated in tax havens to pay taxes on income earned in the U.S. Bill supporters said that would close a tax loophole, but Republicans have branded it a corporate tax increase.

    Instead, the new bill would be paid for with a fee on some foreign firms that get U.S. government procurement contracts. The bill also calls for extending fees on certain firms that rely on H-1B and L-1 visas. It would also extend fees on travelers who don't present visa travel documents at U.S. airports.

    Schumer said he believed the new provisions to pay for the bill would be "noncontroversial" with other lawmakers.
    To paraphrase an old election slogan...

    It's the cost, stupid!

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    Re: 9/11 First responders speak out on 'Daily Show'

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    'behind it'? Like, they were the driving force? You're really not very good at this, are you...

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    To paraphrase an old election slogan...

    It's the cost, stupid!

    unlike the 100 X cost of kissing goodbye all that revenue from raising taxes on the upper 2% which was scheduled to go into effect.
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    Re: 9/11 First responders speak out on 'Daily Show'

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Looks like the misnamed U.S. Chamber of Commerce was behind the effort to kill this bill.

    ThinkProgress U.S. Chamber Of Commerce Lobbied To Help GOP Kill Bill To Provide Health Care To 9/11 First Responders

    part of the article
    Hmmm, wonder if Think Progress had the same harsh words for Obama as they had for the Chamber of Commerce and Republican Party? Somehow I doubt it.

    NY pols stunned to learn Obama administration opposes funding for 9/11 health bill

    The Obama administration stunned New York's delegation Thursday, dropping the bombshell news that it does not support funding the 9/11 health bill.

    The state's two senators and 14 House members met with Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius just hours before President Obama implored in his speech to the nation for Congress to come together and deliver a government that delivers on its promises to the American people.

    So the legislators were floored to learn the Democratic administration does not want to deliver for the tens of thousands of people who sacrificed after 9/11, and the untold numbers now getting sick.
    Read more: NY pols stunned to learn Obama administration opposes funding for 9/11 health bill

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    Re: 9/11 First responders speak out on 'Daily Show'

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket
    Looks like the misnamed U.S. Chamber of Commerce was behind the effort to kill this bill.

    ThinkProgress ‘U.S.’ Chamber Of Commerce Lobbied To Help GOP Kill Bill To Provide Health Care To 9/11 First Responders

    part of the article
    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Hmmm, wonder if Think Progress had the same harsh words for Obama as they had for the Chamber of Commerce and Republican Party? Somehow I doubt it.


    NY pols stunned to learn Obama administration opposes funding for 9/11 health bill

    The Obama administration stunned New York's delegation Thursday, dropping the bombshell news that it does not support funding the 9/11 health bill.

    The state's two senators and 14 House members met with Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius just hours before President Obama implored in his speech to the nation for Congress to come together and deliver a government that delivers on its promises to the American people.

    So the legislators were floored to learn the Democratic administration does not want to deliver for the tens of thousands of people who sacrificed after 9/11, and the untold numbers now getting sick.
    Read more: NY pols stunned to learn Obama administration opposes funding for 9/11 health bill
    They were against it, before they were for it.

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