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    Re: PolitiFact's Lie of the Year: 'A government takeover of health care'

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Says the reader of NRO.
    tell us what makes Polifact credible to you?

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    Re: PolitiFact's Lie of the Year: 'A government takeover of health care'

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    tell us what makes Polifact credible to you?
    Facts. The biggest lie is a subjective thing. But the fact checks they done have been done well, and factual. Of course you have to be interested in the truth to care.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: PolitiFact's Lie of the Year: 'A government takeover of health care'

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Says the reader of NRO.
    thank you boo, you've demonstrated my point amply enough already, and can stop now

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    Re: PolitiFact's Lie of the Year: 'A government takeover of health care'

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    thank you boo, you've demonstrated my point amply enough already, and can stop now
    Tell yourself what you must.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: PolitiFact's Lie of the Year: 'A government takeover of health care'

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    tell us what makes Polifact credible to you?
    it tells him what he wants to hear; and agrees with him on subjective matters. for example: Glenn Beck said that an Obama science advisor had advocated the use of mass sterilization for population control. politifact pointed out that the man had only said that it would be necessary to avoid worse calamities (surely the real debate here should be over a man who thinks that political elites have the right to honestly consider mass-sterilizing the rest of us), which (they claimed) isn't "advocation". that distinction was enough to earn Beck Politifacts' "Pants on Fire" award. now, had anything that ridiculous been presented to Boo (who is intelligent) in any other context, he would immediately have highlighted the obvious confirmation bias. but since Boo also wants to degrade Glenn Beck, he accepts and champions the abuse.

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    Re: PolitiFact's Lie of the Year: 'A government takeover of health care'

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    It would come no where new as huge a lie as those who won the last two.
    no.... putting aside the debate over their accuracy; there seems to be little dispute that the advocates of those views believed what they were saying. Obama, clearly, knew he was lying even as he did it.

    the dividing line for you seems to be that his lie served purposes of which you approved.

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    Re: PolitiFact's Lie of the Year: 'A government takeover of health care'

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Facts. The biggest lie is a subjective thing. But the fact checks they done have been done well, and factual. Of course you have to be interested in the truth to care.
    How do you know that the truth on a program that doesn't go into effect for 4 years?

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    Re: PolitiFact's Lie of the Year: 'A government takeover of health care'

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    How do you know that the truth on a program that doesn't go into effect for 4 years?
    Objective truth or your subjective truth? It any case, I'm fairly familar with the Bill.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: PolitiFact's Lie of the Year: 'A government takeover of health care'

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    no.... putting aside the debate over their accuracy; there seems to be little dispute that the advocates of those views believed what they were saying. Obama, clearly, knew he was lying even as he did it.

    the dividing line for you seems to be that his lie served purposes of which you approved.
    If either of those actually "BELIEVE" the lies they told, they're too stupid to breath. So, I don't buy that argument. And no, that's your spin again, you ignoring the extreme of the liars on your side while trying to make a smaller lie equal.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: PolitiFact's Lie of the Year: 'A government takeover of health care'

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Objective truth or your subjective truth? It any case, I'm fairly familar with the Bill.
    You are familiar with the bill but not the implemenation of that bill because it hasn't been implemented yet and won't be for another 4 years yet you willingly buy the lie of the year when there are more obvious lies which I posted.

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