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    Re: PolitiFact's Lie of the Year: 'A government takeover of health care'

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Grayson is not only a clown, but unworthy of any serious thought. Often who tells the lie causes a higher ranking than just the lie itself.
    so if the President lied..... say.... by first arguing that the money taken from you via the IRS if you didn't purchase the 'right' kind of health insurance wasn't a tax....... and then (once it got before the courts where such a move would be constitutionally questionable) he argued that it was........

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    Re: PolitiFact's Lie of the Year: 'A government takeover of health care'

    Quote Originally Posted by WeAreReborn View Post
    No that is take over because the Romans demanded taxes. And if they didn't like policies they could enforce it. It is pratically just a satellite nation but took the same name.
    Important because the U.S. federal government doesn't demand taxes.
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    Re: PolitiFact's Lie of the Year: 'A government takeover of health care'

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    so if the President lied..... say.... by first arguing that the money taken from you via the IRS if you didn't purchase the 'right' kind of health insurance wasn't a tax....... and then (once it got before the courts where such a move would be constitutionally questionable) he argued that it was........
    It would come no where new as huge a lie as those who won the last two.

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    Re: PolitiFact's Lie of the Year: 'A government takeover of health care'

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    good for you. sadly, this will not be the case for many Americans.
    Chystal balls aside, support that as nothing has changed for either. My change was over two years ago when my premium doubled and I got less coverage.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: PolitiFact's Lie of the Year: 'A government takeover of health care'

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Chystal balls aside, support that as nothing has changed for either. My change was over two years ago when my premium doubled and I got less coverage.
    Political lie of the year and every year, "If you like your doctor or insurance plan you can keep it!" Your premiums doubled, why?

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    Re: PolitiFact's Lie of the Year: 'A government takeover of health care'

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    It would come no where new as huge a lie as those who won the last two.
    So still buying the Polifact lie of the year which happens to be a source used by the left to shape the agenda? How does anyone know that this so call "lie of the year" is truly a lie?

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    Re: PolitiFact's Lie of the Year: 'A government takeover of health care'

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    What would you consider to be a bigger lie?
    Obama is a good President.
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    Re: PolitiFact's Lie of the Year: 'A government takeover of health care'

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Political lie of the year and every year, "If you like your doctor or insurance plan you can keep it!" Your premiums doubled, why?
    It's not surprising. Premiums have been going up by 20 and 30% pretty regularly. It doesn't take long for them to double given that rate of increase.

    The cost of health care might come as a surprise to those whose employers have been paying for insurance premiums, and who haven't done more than have a physical or a visit to get flu meds over the past few years. Anyone who has been to a hospital, and who looked at the total cost, would have been shocked at the bottom line.
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    Re: PolitiFact's Lie of the Year: 'A government takeover of health care'

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    So still buying the Polifact lie of the year which happens to be a source used by the left to shape the agenda?
    of course he does. we all prefer our echo chambers; Boo is just a little more blatant about it than most.

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    Re: PolitiFact's Lie of the Year: 'A government takeover of health care'

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    of course he does. we all prefer our echo chambers; Boo is just a little more blatant about it than most.
    Says the reader of NRO.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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