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    Re: PolitiFact's Lie of the Year: 'A government takeover of health care'

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    Ditto for your definition of socialism.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: PolitiFact's Lie of the Year: 'A government takeover of health care'

    Who cares about what is the "biggest" or "most important" lie of the year. Those terms are completely opinionated. A lie is a lie is a lie, it doesn't matter if some website calls one lie "Lie of the Year" and the other as "second place" they are BOTH LIES.

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    Re: PolitiFact's Lie of the Year: 'A government takeover of health care'

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    What would you consider to be a bigger lie?
    Rich dems enact policies designed to help the poor. That is the single biggest lie in American Politics



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    Re: PolitiFact's Lie of the Year: 'A government takeover of health care'

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Rich dems enact policies designed to help the poor. That is the single biggest lie in American Politics
    No much more then Republicans claiming to represent the wishes of the American People

    Seriously dude, both sides are retards, how your country is standing at all is a miracle, if you put them in charge of a ship, they'd manage to hit an iceburg off the coast of Spain

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    Re: PolitiFact's Lie of the Year: 'A government takeover of health care'

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    politifact is basically a left-centrist blog masquerading as a non-partisan fact-check site. some of the twists they will go through to defend Obama or attack Conservative spokespersons would be impressive if they weren't sad.





    as for "lies of the year", though, i think "you can keep your health insurance" certainly rates honorable mention.
    Facts do have a left wing bias. I think we all know that by now.

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    Re: PolitiFact's Lie of the Year: 'A government takeover of health care'

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    So you have personally unanimously voted this as the lie of the year, not surprising. Something that doesn't go into effect for 4 years cannot be called a lie now except in the leftwing world.
    Haven't voted at all, but I am waiting for something remotely close to be presented. You just haven't yet. And I can't pretend that you have.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: PolitiFact's Lie of the Year: 'A government takeover of health care'

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    That was such a big fat lie, even some liberals were disgusted by it., and he got his butt kicked in the election.
    Grayson is not only a clown, but unworthy of any serious thought. Often who tells the lie causes a higher ranking than just the lie itself.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: PolitiFact's Lie of the Year: 'A government takeover of health care'

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    I vote for:

    "They will see that if Americans like their doctor, they will keep their doctor. If people like their plan, they will keep their plan. No one will be able to take that away from you"
    I still have the same doctor and the same health plan as before.
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    Re: PolitiFact's Lie of the Year: 'A government takeover of health care'

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    CBO says the stimulus created jobs. That's not evidence?
    the CBO has to work with the parameters given to them by the political leadership of congress. that's why there was such intense discussion of their "it will reduce the deficit" report on Obamacare. within the report itself they highlighted several of the parameters they were ordered to include (such as no doc fix) as extremely unlikely to occur; but all the democrats wanted to yell about was the headline CBO SAYS OBAMACARE WILL REDUCE THE DEFICIT unless of course it turns out we live in the real world in which case we are screwed

    so when the CBO says "the stimulus created jobs" what they mean is "Congress ordered us to pretend the money fell off of magic trees, and so yes, by that logic, the stimulus created jobs".

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    Re: PolitiFact's Lie of the Year: 'A government takeover of health care'

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I still have the same doctor and the same health plan as before.
    good for you. sadly, this will not be the case for many Americans.

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