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    Re: PolitiFact's Lie of the Year: 'A government takeover of health care'

    I would say the biggest was "pass the stimulus and unemployment won't rise above 8%. Without it we will all be unemployed."
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    Re: PolitiFact's Lie of the Year: 'A government takeover of health care'

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I would say the biggest was "pass the stimulus and unemployment won't rise above 8%. Without it we will all be unemployed."
    Granted, that was an estimation, and economics isn't an exact science, since economics is a social science.
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    Re: PolitiFact's Lie of the Year: 'A government takeover of health care'

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Granted, that was an estimation, and economics isn't an exact science, since economics is a social science.
    Yes, but his estimation was far off and he used fear mongering to pass the bill. It was a scare tactic tied with a false promise to push for passing the stimulus bill.
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    Re: PolitiFact's Lie of the Year: 'A government takeover of health care'

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    No much more then Republicans claiming to represent the wishes of the American People

    Seriously dude, both sides are retards, how your country is standing at all is a miracle, if you put them in charge of a ship, they'd manage to hit an iceburg off the coast of Spain
    I'd rather they stop us with something like that than over something the size of Niagra Falls. :-)
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    Re: PolitiFact's Lie of the Year: 'A government takeover of health care'

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Yes. He knew it wouldn't rain, but a consortium of umbrealla manufacturers had lobbied him to say otherwise.
    OMG! Another vast conspiracy uncovered! Could this one be all wet, like the other ones?
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    Re: PolitiFact's Lie of the Year: 'A government takeover of health care'

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    What would you consider to be a bigger lie?
    I don't know...I'd say suggesting that the attendee's of the "restoring honor" rally were KKK members 25 years ago would possibly be a contender at least as much as the Bachmann one.

    Or, since that was more hyperbole than an outright lie, at the very least in 2009 I'd say at least a candidate for the top spot or runner up would be suggesting that the Republican Health care Plan is "Don't get sick and if you get sick die quickly". Suggesting there is "Death Panels" in the bill is a stretch...suggesting that the Republicans plan was to either not get sick, or die quickly if you get sick, is a disgusting and unquestionable misrepresentation.

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    Re: PolitiFact's Lie of the Year: 'A government takeover of health care'

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    You still have not learned the difference between a projection and a lie.
    Here's another "projection" that didn't come true:
    Quote Originally Posted by Obama
    "When there’s a bill that ends up on my desk as President, you, the public, will have five days to look on-line and find out what’s in it, before I sign it. So that you know what your government’s doing."
    And another...
    Quote Originally Posted by Obama
    "when I am President, [lobbyists] won't find a job in my White House."
    And another...
    Quote Originally Posted by Obama
    "I cannot guarantee that it is going to be in the first 100 days. But what I can guarantee is that we will have in the first year an immigration bill that I strongly support and that I'm promoting. And I want to move that forward as quickly as possible."
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    Re: PolitiFact's Lie of the Year: 'A government takeover of health care'

    By the way, this thread is fun...

    Its wonderful watching Republicans take statements made in earnest and with the belief that they were ture, but in the end they were not, and calling it a lie.

    Its also wonderful watchign Democrats spouting the definition of what a Lie is and making statements about "knowingly" misleading and other such things.

    Its like we went back in time 5 years and both sides swapped places.

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    Re: PolitiFact's Lie of the Year: 'A government takeover of health care'

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Political lie of the year and every year, "If you like your doctor or insurance plan you can keep it!" Your premiums doubled, why?


    They gave him a half-truth, whatever...
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    Re: PolitiFact's Lie of the Year: 'A government takeover of health care'

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Yes, but his estimation was far off and he used fear mongering to pass the bill. It was a scare tactic tied with a false promise to push for passing the stimulus bill.
    I wouldn't call it fear mongering, more like they thought it would help, and it did, just not as much as they thought, and thought it was important to pass.
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