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    Re: Michael Moore Says Founders Would Have Been "Wikileakers"

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    There is a huge difference between a free press and wikileaks. Wikileaks is making public classified information. PFC Bradley Manning will rot in prison for his treasonous act. He should be executed by firing squad. Wikileaks is an anarchist organization that our founding fathers would absolutly not approve of.
    Which if you study American history is the ultimate job of the Press when it comes to governments.

    As for Manning goes, yes he is a traitor. I've stated as much in quite a few threads already. But Manning does not equal wikileaks.
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    Re: Michael Moore Says Founders Would Have Been "Wikileakers"

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    It's a good thing Michale Moore is always wrong Let's not change that now.

    I highly doubt the founders would have supported the British army stealing and leaking military information about the Colonial forces or leaking other information. For one, Assange is not an American and is not protected by our Constitution. His actions are also putting lives at risk and are bad for our nation. I don't think the founders would approve of a foreigner leaking critical information out.
    Part in Bold: Incorrect. As the Amendments in the Constitution (also known as the Bill of Rights) are restrictions on the government, not on the people. As such the bill of rights would benefit anyone that is not in the government. Including those that are not American citizens.
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    Re: Michael Moore Says Founders Would Have Been "Wikileakers"

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Not necessarily. It could be in fact encourage the same reaction as before, if not more stringent. Nevertheless, your point could stand if say it is like a nuclear option, in such that nuclear weapons have complicated the political-military means of determining action and methodology.
    I think it is reasonable to consider Wikileaks the 'nuclear option' of the fourth estate. And like the atom bomb, once it was developed, its eventual use was inevitable. Better sooner than later.
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    Re: Michael Moore Says Founders Would Have Been "Wikileakers"

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    there wouldn't have been a McDonalds within a million miles of him.
    Wow, good thing Republican Governor Chris Christie wasn't born back then.
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    Re: Michael Moore Says Founders Would Have Been "Wikileakers"

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Which if you study American history is the ultimate job of the Press when it comes to governments.

    As for Manning goes, yes he is a traitor. I've stated as much in quite a few threads already. But Manning does not equal wikileaks.
    If someone knowingly bought stolen property wouldn't they be as bad the thief who stole it. If someone knowingly drove a bank robber to the bank and helped them carried the cash out and drive that bank robber off to safety then isn't that person as bad as the bank robber even if he never pointed a gun at anyone or told anyone to giver up their money?
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Michael Moore Says Founders Would Have Been "Wikileakers"

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    If someone knowingly bought stolen property wouldn't they be as bad the thief who stole it. If someone knowingly drove a bank robber to the bank and helped them carried the cash out and drive that bank robber off to safety then isn't that person as bad as the bank robber even if he never pointed a gun at anyone or told anyone to giver up their money?
    You can use these examples all that you want. Doesn't mean that they apply to free press. There are exceptions to every rule.
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    Re: Michael Moore Says Founders Would Have Been "Wikileakers"

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Why is it shocking to you that he stood with the Democrating party in 2004? Does it need to be more obvious that he wanted Bush out more than anything? If you think he's such a Democrat lover and a shill for the party, why don't you google what he's been saying for the last year or so. There is no doubt Moore is liberal and firm in his stance. However I have not seen anything to indicate that he's partisan.

    he accused Bush of being a party to 9/11. there's a quick "nutcase" test: you are on the right - are you a "birther"? you are on the left - are you a "truther"? Moore campaigned for democratic candidates up and down this land, and they were more than happy to accept the angry, psycho left in for their energy, money, activism....

    but the hard-left is now eating the Democrat Party.

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    Re: Michael Moore Says Founders Would Have Been "Wikileakers"

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    Re: Michael Moore Says Founders Would Have Been "Wikileakers"

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    If someone knowingly bought stolen property wouldn't they be as bad the thief who stole it. If someone knowingly drove a bank robber to the bank and helped them carried the cash out and drive that bank robber off to safety then isn't that person as bad as the bank robber even if he never pointed a gun at anyone or told anyone to giver up their money?
    Information is not property. You cannot own information. You can copyright it in a fixed form, but the information itself cannot be owned. And in order for dissemination of that information to be considered criminal, you have to prove actual harm caused. No such harm has resulted from WikiLeaks, and I highly doubt it will.
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    Re: Michael Moore Says Founders Would Have Been "Wikileakers"

    And Michael Moore goes on about how Americans are dumb.

    The Founders would have shot Assange as a spy without a second thought. And the rest of the world would have said "that sounds about right."
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