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    Re: Michael Moore Says Founders Would Have Been "Wikileakers"

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    And Michael Moore goes on about how Americans are dumb.

    The Founders would have shot Assange as a spy without a second thought. And the rest of the world would have said "that sounds about right."
    Read post 80. Their own words shows that they would have supported wikileaks.
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    Re: Michael Moore Says Founders Would Have Been "Wikileakers"

    The whole question is meaningless you might as well ask which i-phone apps whould genghis khan have.
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    Re: Michael Moore Says Founders Would Have Been "Wikileakers"

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Read post 80. Their own words shows that they would have supported wikileaks.
    What, all that stuff about the free press? Got nothing to do with what they thought of spies.
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    Re: Michael Moore Says Founders Would Have Been "Wikileakers"

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    What, all that stuff about the free press? Got nothing to do with what they thought of spies.
    So, Assaunge is a spy now? I would have to say that he makes a pretty piss poor spy....

    Merriam-Webster: defination of spy

    transitive verb
    1: to watch secretly usually for hostile purposes
    2: to catch sight of : see
    3: to search or look for intensively —usually used with out <spy out places fit for vending … goods — S. E. Morison>
    intransitive verb
    1: to observe or search for something : look
    2: to watch secretly as a spy
    Parts of this defination would apply to assaunge certainly...of course those same parts would also apply to every other single news agency out there...and a lot of individual people ta boot. However there is no part of it that would apply for what you are talking about.
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    Re: Michael Moore Says Founders Would Have Been "Wikileakers"

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    So, Assaunge is a spy now? I would have to say that he makes a pretty piss poor spy....

    Merriam-Webster: defination of spy



    Parts of this defination would apply to assaunge certainly...of course those same parts would also apply to every other single news agency out there...and a lot of individual people ta boot. However there is no part of it that would apply for what you are talking about.
    Considering the dude is in the specific business of collecting and publishing state secrets, then yes, they'd have considered him a spy, and they wouldn't have wrangled with any matters of conscience over it. People of education and accomplishment weren't that stupid then.

    They'd laugh at the idea that he's a "journalist" and that his modus operandi is what's contemplated by the "free press."
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    Re: Michael Moore Says Founders Would Have Been "Wikileakers"

    God, I am so sick of this bull**** "what the founders would have wanted/thought crap".

    Who the **** cares? They're dead and gone, get over it. Jesus H. Christ.

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    Re: Michael Moore Says Founders Would Have Been "Wikileakers"

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    God, I am so sick of this bull**** "what the founders would have wanted/thought crap".

    Who the **** cares? They're dead and gone, get over it. Jesus H. Christ.
    Their work (the Constitution) isn't. It's still alive, and writer's intent is extremely important in interpreting any document. So yeah, what they wanted still matters to a certain extent.

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    Re: Michael Moore Says Founders Would Have Been "Wikileakers"

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    God, I am so sick of this bull**** "what the founders would have wanted/thought crap".

    Who the **** cares? They're dead and gone, get over it. Jesus H. Christ.
    I think you should take it up with Michael Moore, then.
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    Re: Michael Moore Says Founders Would Have Been "Wikileakers"

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Considering the dude is in the specific business of collecting and publishing state secrets, then yes, they'd have considered him a spy, and they wouldn't have wrangled with any matters of conscience over it. People of education and accomplishment weren't that stupid then.

    They'd laugh at the idea that he's a "journalist" and that his modus operandi is what's contemplated by the "free press."
    Considering that they wanted the press to be free specifically to be the watchdog of the government it is easily understandable that the press publicating secrets would be a part of that job. As you say...people of education and accomplishment weren't that stupid then. To think that a group that is meant to be kept free and to be the watchdog of the government and yet wouldn't publish secrets, well, that would be stupid. Wouldn't you say?
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    Re: Michael Moore Says Founders Would Have Been "Wikileakers"

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Considering that they wanted the press to be free specifically to be the watchdog of the government it is easily understandable that the press publicating secrets would be a part of that job. As you say...people of education and accomplishment weren't that stupid then. To think that a group that is meant to be kept free and to be the watchdog of the government and yet wouldn't publish secrets, well, that would be stupid. Wouldn't you say?
    They would NOT countenance someone whose specific aim was to obtain and publish state secrets, under the guise of "freedom of the press" or otherwise. That's tubthumping asininity.

    They wanted to protect the freedom to criticize the government without punishment. That is in no way the same thing.
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