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    Re: Obama honors Nobel winner with statement about himself Read more at the Washingt

    Yeah?

    Did he need to finish off with this?

    I regret that Mr. Liu and his wife were denied the opportunity to attend the ceremony that Michelle and I attended last year.
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    Re: Obama honors Nobel winner with statement about himself Read more at the Washingt

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Yeah?

    Did he need to finish off with this?


    Did he mention he won it last year? Oh he did?

    Nevermind.
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    Re: Obama honors Nobel winner with statement about himself Read more at the Washingt

    did anyone notice the picture they chose for the article?


    Rather apropos, wouldn't you say?

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    Re: Obama honors Nobel winner with statement about himself Read more at the Washingt

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    the end result here is that Hay will be upset and whine whenever someone says something negative about Obama. He'd prefer us all to say nothing but positive things about the President, and if we only say occasional nice things, then those nice things don't matter.
    Which is not true at all. Just this week I have been critical of Obama and how he has handled the tax hike situation.
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    Re: Obama honors Nobel winner with statement about himself Read more at the Washingt

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    I accept your concession.


    It goes to show how I am far more objective, even when I start one sorta silly thread on Obama, than present company. Thank you for that.
    you are laboring under a delusion of your own making.
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    Re: Obama honors Nobel winner with statement about himself Read more at the Washingt

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    did anyone notice the picture they chose for the article?


    Rather apropos, wouldn't you say?
    Nah. Total coincidence.

    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Obama honors Nobel winner with statement about himself Read more at the Washingt

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    /facepalm
    You would think that this man wouldn't be so arrogant, (yes arrogant) about his pre-emptive peace prize when faced with someone imprisoned for thier work......
    You're foaming... here is the entire statement:

    One year ago, I was humbled to receive the Nobel Peace Prize – an award that speaks to our highest aspirations, and that has been claimed by giants of history and courageous advocates who have sacrificed for freedom and justice. Mr. Liu Xiaobo is far more deserving of this award than I was.

    All of us have a responsibility to build a just peace that recognizes the inherent rights and dignity of human beings – a truth upheld within the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. In our own lives, our own countries, and in the world, the pursuit of a just peace remains incomplete, even as we strive for progress. This past year saw the release of Nobel Laureate Aung San Suu Kyi, even as the Burmese people continue to be denied the democracy that they deserve. Nobel Laureate Jose Ramos Horta has continued his tireless work to build a free and prosperous East Timor, having made the transition from dissident to President. And this past year saw the retirement of Nobel Laureate Desmond Tutu, whose own career demonstrates the universal power of freedom and justice to overcome extraordinary obstacles.

    The rights of human beings are universal – they do not belong to one nation, region or faith. America respects the unique culture and traditions of different countries. We respect China’s extraordinary accomplishment in lifting millions out of poverty, and believe that human rights include the dignity that comes with freedom from want. But Mr. Liu reminds us that human dignity also depends upon the advance of democracy, open society, and the rule of law. The values he espouses are universal, his struggle is peaceful, and he should be released as soon as possible. I regret that Mr. Liu and his wife were denied the opportunity to attend the ceremony that Michelle and I attended last year. Today, on what is also International Human Rights Day, we should redouble our efforts to advance universal values for all human beings.
    Epic. F'n. Fail. Not only is the OP dishonest, so is the article's title.
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    Re: Obama honors Nobel winner with statement about himself Read more at the Washingt

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Which is not true at all. Just this week I have been critical of Obama and how he has handled the tax hike situation.
    which doesn't excuse your knee-jerk reactions in awe of nearly everything else Obama does, now does it?

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    Re: Obama honors Nobel winner with statement about himself Read more at the Washingt

    Lets examine this...

    One year ago, I was humbled to receive the Nobel Peace Prize...
    Opening a statement meant to honor the current recipient, by talking about yourself? ARROGANT.

    – an award that speaks to our highest aspirations, and that has been claimed by giants of history and courageous advocates who have sacrificed for freedom and justice.
    Again, talking about himself like he is indeed the second coming. WTF did Obama sacrifice?.. ARROGANT

    Mr. Liu Xiaobo is far more deserving of this award than I was.
    A little false modesty never hurt anyone, right?

    The entire opening paragraph... all about Obama instead of the current recipient. He mentions the current recipient only in passing. ARROGANT

    All of us have a responsibility to build a just peace that recognizes the inherent rights and dignity of human beings – a truth upheld within the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. In our own lives, our own countries, and in the world, the pursuit of a just peace remains incomplete, even as we strive for progress. This past year saw the release of Nobel Laureate Aung San Suu Kyi, even as the Burmese people continue to be denied the democracy that they deserve. Nobel Laureate Jose Ramos Horta has continued his tireless work to build a free and prosperous East Timor, having made the transition from dissident to President. And this past year saw the retirement of Nobel Laureate Desmond Tutu, whose own career demonstrates the universal power of freedom and justice to overcome extraordinary obstacles.
    Here we have the main body of the statement from Obama. 3 past Nobel Laureates are mentioned by name... not the current recipient.
    Not arrogant, just lame.



    The rights of human beings are universal – they do not belong to one nation, region or faith. America respects the unique culture and traditions of different countries. We respect China’s extraordinary accomplishment in lifting millions out of poverty, and believe that human rights include the dignity that comes with freedom from want. But Mr. Liu reminds us that human dignity also depends upon the advance of democracy, open society, and the rule of law. The values he espouses are universal, his struggle is peaceful, and he should be released as soon as possible.
    FINALLY! In the closing remarks of the statement, we hear about the current recipient. It's about ****ing time.

    I regret that Mr. Liu and his wife were denied the opportunity to attend the ceremony that Michelle and I attended last year. Today, on what is also International Human Rights Day, we should redouble our efforts to advance universal values for all human beings.
    And of course, since he opened the statement talking about himself instead of the current recipient, he has to close it talking about himself instead of the current recipient... can you say NARCISSIST? Sure you can.
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    Re: Obama honors Nobel winner with statement about himself Read more at the Washingt

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    As I said.. having the anecdote in there is fine, and I have no problem with the wording... however, STARTING off with it is arrogant. It belonged a little further in, after talking solely about the current recipient and his situation. By talking about himself first (even adding the 'but he is much more deserving' line), it shows arrogance.
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    Not sure if it's arrogance stating that he (Liu Xiaobo) is more deserving than Obama so much as just pointing out the obvious. Sounded a little silly to those familiar with Obama's earlier "win".......



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