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    Re: Dems Gone Wild......**** the President!

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    It will not help. They will not use the money to pay down the debt. If you keep giving them more money they will spend more
    Then I'd have to go radical and would (if in congress) vote against the tax cuts. It would be the right thing to do.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Dems Gone Wild......**** the President!

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Then I'd have to go radical and would (if in congress) vote against the tax cuts. It would be the right thing to do.
    How would voting against the tax cuts help?

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    Re: Dems Gone Wild......**** the President!

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    How would voting against the tax cuts help?
    It would increase taxes and it would stir up the base of people who are fiscally already pissed off. It would give the Government yet MORE money to spend which I think they would be happy to do and raise the economic outrage to a flashpoint. That's probably what we need - some riots in the streets to get some real cuts and fiscal responsibility. I don't see it happening with this "compromise".
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Dems Gone Wild......**** the President!

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    It would increase taxes and it would stir up the base of people who are fiscally already pissed off. It would give the Government yet MORE money to spend which I think they would be happy to do and raise the economic outrage to a flashpoint. That's probably what we need - some riots in the streets to get some real cuts and fiscal responsibility. I don't see it happening with this "compromise".
    How low should we go?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirPwn4lot View Post
    How low should we go?
    How low of a tax cut?
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Dems Gone Wild......**** the President!

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    So does this mean the Dems are the party of no and against bi-partisan? Why do they have to hate the rich so much that they can't allow them to keep the tax cuts they already have in a time of economic trouble? Why can't the Dems compromise on something so small as extending the tax cuts for the rich as well as everyone else? I honestly don't understand it.
    i would really, really, really like you to defend your statement about dems in congress "hating the rich". do they hate themselves, then? seriously, dig, stop with the overblown, trite rhetoric. i will if you will.

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    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Dems Gone Wild......**** the President!

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i would really, really, really like you to defend your statement about dems in congress "hating the rich". do they hate themselves, then? seriously, dig, stop with the overblown, trite rhetoric. i will if you will.
    Especially considering that this would have to be considered self hating by very definition.

    If they were self serving, however, they would be advocating the path that resulted in their own benefit.
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    Re: Dems Gone Wild......**** the President!

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i would really, really, really like you to defend your statement about dems in congress "hating the rich". do they hate themselves, then? seriously, dig, stop with the overblown, trite rhetoric. i will if you will.
    So you're saying "self hate" is a myth? First, not all Dems in Congress are rich but yes there's "rich guilt" too.

    Young heirs grapple with wealth of ambivalence - washingtonpost.com


    But then there's the political position of "hating the rich" which helps to position these Dems with the cliche of "Democrats fight for the little guy" and it advances that narrative. While, in reality, they don't hate the rich at all - some of them are VERY rich but they don't want to be portrayed that way. As long as Dems continue the narrative and continue to make the poor dependent upon their hand-outs, they have voters for life, and therefore it's all good.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Dems Gone Wild......**** the President!

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    So you're saying "self hate" is a myth? First, not all Dems in Congress are rich but yes there's "rich guilt" too.

    Young heirs grapple with wealth of ambivalence - washingtonpost.com


    But then there's the political position of "hating the rich" which helps to position these Dems with the cliche of "Democrats fight for the little guy" and it advances that narrative. While, in reality, they don't hate the rich at all - some of them are VERY rich but they don't want to be portrayed that way. As long as Dems continue the narrative and continue to make the poor dependent upon their hand-outs, they have voters for life, and therefore it's all good.
    so you want it both ways? they hate the rich but they don't hate the rich? make up your mind here.

    it's rhetoric designed to inflame, nothing more. it's perfectly possible to fight for the little guy and not hate the big guy. hate is a much overused word.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Dems Gone Wild......**** the President!

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    so you want it both ways? they hate the rich but they don't hate the rich? make up your mind here.
    One is political posturing, one is real life. What's confusing you about that?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    it's rhetoric designed to inflame, nothing more. it's perfectly possible to fight for the little guy and not hate the big guy. hate is a much overused word.
    I never claimed it WASN'T possible.


    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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