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Bloomberg, in major speech, offers 'a middle way'

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Bloomberg, in major speech, offers 'a middle way'

New York City Mayor Mike Bloomberg this morning put economic substance to his pox-on-both-your-houses criticism of Democratic and Republican governance, offering his own "middle way" -- and the clearest suggestion yet that he's positioning himself for the national stage.

"We need our federal and state governments to chart a middle way – between a government that would wash its hands of the problem and one that seeks to supplant the private sector; between a government that would stand on the sidelines and one that would take over the game," Bloomberg told the Association for a better New York in his prepared remarks, nominally on the theme of New York's economy:

Bloomberg, in major speech, offers 'a middle way' - Ben Smith - POLITICO.com
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Of course this tyrant is going to run. He is a true enemy of the state, and interstate criminal and should be stopped at any chance.

He is not "the middle" he is far left.
 
Catz Part Deux said:
Isn't he a republican and an entrepeneur?
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1. no, he ran as one, but was not one. he soon dropped the (r) as soon as his mayorship was safe an adopted an (I)....

2. not really, he was a made a partner at one money company, got fired and 10 million bucks, and made his money make more money, doesn't change the fact that he's a dirtbag.
 
Some of the best politicians are a little dirty. :shrug: Eliot Spitzer, for instance.
 
Catz Part Deux said:
Some of the best politicians are a little dirty. :shrug: Eliot Spitzer, for instance.
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a little?

the people of new york rejected the abolishment of term limits, instead of listening to the will of the people he cut a deal with the city council circumventing the will of the people.

He also sent his "agents" to southern states to make "strawman purchases" of guns, then sued them. This is an interstate crime, these "Agents" had to lie on the form.


He's a dirtbag, a tyrant (salt, fat, smoking bans,) of the worst order.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
a little?

the people of new york rejected the abolishment of term limits, instead of listening to the will of the people he cut a deal with the city council circumventing the will of the people.

He also sent his "agents" to southern states to make "strawman purchases" of guns, then sued them. This is an interstate crime, these "Agents" had to lie on the form.


He's a dirtbag, a tyrant (salt, fat, smoking bans,) of the worst order.
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ahhhaaa ... now I see why you hate him so much.

and then you say this

the people of new york rejected the abolishment of term limits, instead of listening to the will of the people he cut a deal with the city council circumventing the will of the people.
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while I sympathize with your term limits argument, the fact is that the people of New York spoke pretty loudly when the voted him in for a third term. It kind of weakens any argument that he ignored the will of the people even if both you and I see eye to eye on it.
 
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that was an amazingly insightful speech

tell us rev, what about his proposal(s) do you object?
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
a little?

the people of new york rejected the abolishment of term limits, instead of listening to the will of the people he cut a deal with the city council circumventing the will of the people.

He also sent his "agents" to southern states to make "strawman purchases" of guns, then sued them. This is an interstate crime, these "Agents" had to lie on the form.


He's a dirtbag, a tyrant (salt, fat, smoking bans,) of the worst order.
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I agree Doucheberg ought to be someone's prison bitch for his conspiracy to violate federal and state gun laws
 
haymarket said:
ahhhaaa ... now I see why you hate him so much.
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You haven't a clue.


and then you say this



while I sympathize with your term limits argument, the fact is that the people of New York spoke pretty loudly when the voted him in for a third term. It kind of weakens any argument that he ignored the will of the people even if both you and I see eye to eye on it.
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You are right, a challenger with a spotty past and no money against the 10th richest man in the country? Sure the people of NY spoke, and they are idiots.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
You haven't a clue.








You are right, a challenger with a spotty past and no money against the 10th richest man in the country? Sure the people of NY spoke, and they are idiots.
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But rev, you have provided much more than a clue. In thread after thread you show a fanatical obsession with the Second Amendment and guns. If indeed Bloomberg did what you claim he did, it makes perfect sense why you feel so strongly about him. It explains a great deal about your reaction and the litany of names you call him

tyrant
enemy of the state
interstate criminal
dirtbag

I think you forgot poopoohead.

It was an open and free election. The people spoke and made their choice.
 
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haymarket said:
But rev, you have provided much more than a clue. In thread after thread you show a fanatical obsession with the Second Amendment and guns. If indeed Bloomberg did what you claim he did, it makes perfect sense why you feel so strongly about him. It explains a great deal about your reaction and the litany of names you call him

tyrant
enemy of the state
interstate criminal
dirtbag

I think you forgot poopoohead.

It was an open and free election. The people spoke and made their choice.
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Really? So do you always jump to asinine conclusions? Perhaps you could ask me why I don't like the man, I'd tell you to use the search feature but lets me summarize.


his law breaking when it comes to interstate strawman stings.

His banning of trans saturated fats,

His circumventing the will of the people with the term limits, (he back in 2001, stated that he was against extending the term limits to allow gulianni to run again,)

His push for a salt ban.


He's a hypocrite, a big government nanny statist, and an interstate criminal.

These are the whole of the reasons I do not like him. If you want to be dishonest about things, keep up with your nonsense, I don't care.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
Really? So do you always jump to asinine conclusions? Perhaps you could ask me why I don't like the man, I'd tell you to use the search feature but lets me summarize.


his law breaking when it comes to interstate strawman stings.

His banning of trans saturated fats,

His circumventing the will of the people with the term limits, (he back in 2001, stated that he was against extending the term limits to allow gulianni to run again,)

His push for a salt ban.


He's a hypocrite, a big government nanny statist, and an interstate criminal.

These are the whole of the reasons I do not like him. If you want to be dishonest about things, keep up with your nonsense, I don't care.
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but what about his speech, imploring for a move to the middle, did you find objectionable?
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
His notion of what "the middle" is. :shrug:
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did you even read it?
... Despite what ideologues on the left believe, government cannot tax and spend its way back to prosperity, especially when that spending is driven by pork barrel politics. ...

despite what ideologues on the right believe, government should not stand aside and wait for the business cycle to run its natural course. ...

we need our federal and state governments to chart a middle way – between a government that would wash its hands of the problem and one that seeks to supplant the private sector; between a government that would stand on the sidelines and one that would take over the game. ...

The current barriers standing in the way of innovation and job creation are much more political than economic. ...

Last month, voters turned against Democrats in Washington for the same reason they turned against Republicans in 2006. Democrats now, and Republicans then, spent more time and energy conducting partisan warfare than forging centrist solutions to our toughest economic problems. This abdication of responsibility has many causes, including party primaries that take place in gerrymandered districts where moderates are out-numbered and independents are often excluded. Bloggers and partisan pundits feed a 24-hour news cycle that values conflict over consensus, rewarding people at the extremes who scream the loudest.

The result? Both parties follow the mood of the moment – instead of leading from the front. They incite anger instead of addressing it ...

Especially in these tough times, we need our leaders to inspire the whole country – not criticize half of it. ...

We need those in government to stop demagoguing and start delivering. ...

Cutting taxes is easy enough – cutting the deficit is another story. The Deficit Reduction Commission offered a good start, but it’s disappointing that Congress is choosing not to debate its recommendations. We can’t afford to keep pushing these tough decisions off. We need more than a commission, and more than lip service. We need results. And not next year or the year after – but now. ...

We need strategies for putting people in all industries back to work, doing jobs they have the skills to do – or that they can learn. And that means the federal government must do more – right now – to create the conditions, and pursue the strategies, that will lead to more private sector investment.

The good news, I believe, is that these engines for growth are not liberal or conservative – left or right. They are made-up of centrist, fiscally-responsible measures that majorities in both parties should support ...
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his six specific recommendations are valid ones too; hopefully, they will not be dismissed as more stuff we don't want to hear, such as the Deficit Commission's proposal

but again, while you might object to bloomberg as a person and as a polictican, what is it about his speech that you find objectionable?
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
Really? So do you always jump to asinine conclusions? Perhaps you could ask me why I don't like the man, I'd tell you to use the search feature but lets me summarize.


his law breaking when it comes to interstate strawman stings.

His banning of trans saturated fats,

His circumventing the will of the people with the term limits, (he back in 2001, stated that he was against extending the term limits to allow gulianni to run again,)

His push for a salt ban.


He's a hypocrite, a big government nanny statist, and an interstate criminal.

These are the whole of the reasons I do not like him. If you want to be dishonest about things, keep up with your nonsense, I don't care.
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and those stings were over what .....

G
U
N
S.

nuff said.
 
justabubba said:
did you even read it?

his six specific recommendations are valid ones too; hopefully, they will not be dismissed as more stuff we don't want to hear, such as the Deficit Commission's proposal

but again, while you might object to bloomberg as a person and as a polictican, what is it about his speech that you find objectionable?
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is this oneof the 6 things?


"We need those in government to stop demagoguing and start delivering. ..."
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
is this oneof the 6 things?


"We need those in government to stop demagoguing and start delivering. ..."
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First: and this is an easy one – instill confidence.
Second: Promote trade.
Third: Reform regulations.
Four: Cut business taxes.
Five: Invest in job training.
our sixth and final step: Fix immigration.
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no, here is where that advice was provided, and in context:
... Our freedom, our ingenuity, our work ethic, our creativity, our openness to new ideas and new people, our belief in a better tomorrow – these are the qualities that have allowed us to confront and overcome the toughest of challenges. And these are the qualities that elected officials at the local, state, and federal levels must work to unleash right now. To do that, we need to shift course. We need those in government to stop demagoguing and start delivering. ...
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so, have you found anything objectionable about his proposal? if so, share what you have identified
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
I've told you why, I've listed numerous things, if you would rather lie and bait me, we have nothing more to discuss. :shrug:
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In your post #5, you only listed two actual things

the people of new york rejected the abolishment of term limits, instead of listening to the will of the people he cut a deal with the city council circumventing the will of the people.

He also sent his "agents" to southern states to make "strawman purchases" of guns, then sued them. This is an interstate crime, these "Agents" had to lie on the form.
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The other stuff you added on without any explanation or elaboration to make it look like the guns were not the focus of your ire. But they are at least half.

Yeah, I know, you are walking away again and have nothing more to discuss.

Until you reply to this.
 
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haymarket said:
In your post #5, you only listed two actual things



The other stuff you added on without any explanation or elaboration to make it look like the guns were not the focus of your ire. But they are at least half.

Yeah, I know, you are walking away again and have nothing more to discuss.

Until you reply to this.
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You being someone who constantly whines and runs away sobbing because you say someone makes a "Frankensein's monster" out of your posts, this exchange with RHH gives me the giggles.
 
Harshaw said:
You being someone who constantly whines and runs away sobbing because you say someone makes a "Frankensein's monster" out of your posts, this exchange with RHH gives me the giggles.
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You should stop tickling yourself then.

The real mystery is why such a staunch gun rights advocate as the Rev tries to run and hide from his beliefs in this thread by attempting to downplay his beliefs?
 
Probably because you're the only one who doesn't see the whole panoply of complaints he has against the man and you've completely made up the idea that it's mostly about guns (and considering it's about interstate straw purchases, that argument is doubly stupid, because it wouldn't make any sense even if it were the ONLY point he listed).

None so blind, blah, blah, blah . . .
 
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