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    Re: Two Major Conservative Obstacles Emerge To Tax Cut Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    the specific quote mentioned was "fight over the bush tax cuts"....and that's exactly what this is. that stupid article is more right wing crap designed to inflame.
    Right, like creating and promoting class warfare doesn't inflame? How about taking a crack at it, explaining how you keeping more of your own money is an expense to the govt?

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    Re: Two Major Conservative Obstacles Emerge To Tax Cut Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Newsflash for you Conservative: the current rates have already been raised. And they were raised by President Bush and the Congress who passed the previous bill. They go into effect on January 1st. They have already been raised and if nothing is done then on the first of next month the government will begin taking the money based on those raised rates.
    Now that is a new take on this entire subject. Keep diverting though, tell me how keeping more of what you earn is an expense to the govt? Those tax rates don't go up until Jan. 1

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    Re: Two Major Conservative Obstacles Emerge To Tax Cut Compromise

    It is not a new take. it goes back to the historical record established in the Bush Presidency.
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    Re: Two Major Conservative Obstacles Emerge To Tax Cut Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    It is not a new take. it goes back to the historical record established in the Bush Presidency.
    And what does that have to do with the thread topic? The sunset provision was put in to pass the Democrat controlled Congress.

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    Re: Two Major Conservative Obstacles Emerge To Tax Cut Compromise

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    And what does that have to do with the thread topic? The sunset provision was put in to pass the Democrat controlled Congress.
    It is the -- get ready for a word you may not like ..... REALITY of the situation. President Bush and his GOP controlled Congress raised the tax rates and set the date of Jan. 1 of 2011 as that date.
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    Re: Two Major Conservative Obstacles Emerge To Tax Cut Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    It is the -- get ready for a word you may not like ..... REALITY of the situation. President Bush and his GOP controlled Congress raised the tax rates and set the date of Jan. 1 of 2011 as that date.
    Nice revisionist history, better check who controlled the Congress in 2001-2002 when the law was passed and then how he got 60 votes in the Senate in 2003. The reality of the situation is that Democrats had overwhelming numbers the last 2 years and did nothing. Further when the GOP takes control of the House in January 2011 they will pass a bill to restore those tax rates if it isn't passed by then. Obama and the Democrats will be on record as raising taxes on all Americans.

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    Re: Two Major Conservative Obstacles Emerge To Tax Cut Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Nice revisionist history, better check who controlled the Congress in 2001-2002 when the law was passed and then how he got 60 votes in the Senate in 2003. The reality of the situation is that Democrats had overwhelming numbers the last 2 years and did nothing. Further when the GOP takes control of the House in January 2011 they will pass a bill to restore those tax rates if it isn't passed by then. Obama and the Democrats will be on record as raising taxes on all Americans.
    You check your own history please. The Republicans controlled the Presidency, they controlled the House and there was a tie in the Senate but controlled it through the VP who was a Republican. Jeffords did not switch until after the Bush tax cuts in 2001. When more were passed in 2003, the GOP also controlled all three.

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    Re: Two Major Conservative Obstacles Emerge To Tax Cut Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You check your own history please. The Republicans controlled the Presidency, they controlled the House and there was a tie in the Senate but controlled it through the VP who was a Republican. Jeffords did not switch until after the Bush tax cuts in 2001. When more were passed in 2003, the GOP also controlled all three.

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    Since it takes 60 votes to get anything out of the Senate there was no GOP Control. When the GOP took control they did indeed implement withholding cuts but still didn't have 60 votes to get a permanent cut in place.

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    Re: Two Major Conservative Obstacles Emerge To Tax Cut Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Uhh are you looking at the same bill that I'm looking at? The Democrats supported 99% of it? What in God's name are you talking about? The bill was a massive extension of the Bush tax cuts and a lower estate tax, and in exchange the Democrats got...an extension of unemployment benefits. Whoa. I'm so impressed. What an awesome deal. Yeah, I have no idea why Democrats would be opposed to that.
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    Re: Two Major Conservative Obstacles Emerge To Tax Cut Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    And the fact is, it's the dems who came out STRONGLY against the bill.
    Demint came out later.
    The difference, of course, is that the Democrats had a good REASON to oppose it, as it goes directly against what they think is the best policy. DeMint opposed it for childish reasons, because he only got 99% of what he wanted.

    But you know what, you're right. Maybe DeMint's on to something here. I suggest all the conservatives here write to their congressmen and urge them to follow DeMint's lead and oppose the bill.
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