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    Re: Two Major Conservative Obstacles Emerge To Tax Cut Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    its the dimbocrats who are trying to derail the deal
    Some are genuine, but most will put up the usual fight to cover their asses from public opinion, not enough to stop the legislation, but enough to make it look like they're not full of it.

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    Re: Two Major Conservative Obstacles Emerge To Tax Cut Compromise

    The Republicans will fight like caged animals to cut taxes for the wealthy but they raise the middle finger to policemen and firefighters who need help in the 911 attacks

    Republicans Block Passage of 9/11 Responder Aid Bill | Public Intelligence

    This truly sickens me and makes me ashamed that such a political party even exists in this country. I bet Abe Lincoln would have the same reaction.
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    Re: Two Major Conservative Obstacles Emerge To Tax Cut Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    The Republicans will fight like caged animals to cut taxes for the wealthy but they raise the middle finger to policemen and firefighters who need help in the 911 attacks

    Republicans Block Passage of 9/11 Responder Aid Bill | Public Intelligence

    This truly sickens me and makes me ashamed that such a political party even exists in this country. I bet Abe Lincoln would have the same reaction.
    Yeah... mean old nasty republicans
    H.R. 847: James Zadroga 9/11 Health and Compensation Act of 2010 - Legislative Digest - GOP.gov
    Some Members may be concerned about several issues:

    1. H.R. 847 creates a new entitlement program.

    2. H.R. 847 is paid for with a tax increase on companies located in the United States that are employing American workers.

    3. H.R. 847 is not means tested. An amendment to preclude millionaires from accessing the new health entitlement created by Title I was defeated during the markup in Energy and Commerce Committee.

    4. NIOSH does not have expertise in administering a health care payment program. The current program is a block-grant program, and under H.R. 847, NIOSH will negotiate contracts and approve treatment protocols.

    5. H.R. 847 increases hospital reimbursement rates to 140 percent of Medicare reimbursement rates on average for New York City hospitals while ObamaCare cuts $150 billion in payments to hospitals around the country.

    6. H.R. 847 does not reward hospitals and providers for improving health care. They will be reimbursed based on each service they perform, which will encourage overutilization and increase health care spending.

    7. Currently, several programs receive federal funding for medical monitoring and treatment programs. Those programs include: Fire Department of New York WTC Medical Monitoring Program, New York/New Jersey WTC Consortium, WTC Health Registry, WTC Federal Responder Screening Program, Project COPE, and POPPA (Police Organization Providing Peer Assistance) program.

    8. Limited oversight fails to ensure taxpayer funds are spent properly and effectively. Government health care programs, such as Medicare, have a significant amount of fraud.

    9. H.R. 847 gives too much discretion in the unreviewable authority of the Special Master.

    10. H.R. 847 permits claimants to seek compensation through the VCF even if they have settled their lawsuits against the $1 billion taxpayer-funded World Trade Center Captive Insurance Company.

    11. H.R. 847 includes protections for trial lawyers, including the ability to receive taxpayer-funded compensation for work not directly related to recovery from the VCF. In addition, attorneys who have been compensation under another settlement will have access to settlement funds under the reopened VCF.

    12. 12. H.R. 847 extends the geographic scope of the original September 11 Fund and gives the Special Master discretion to extend it even farther.

    13. H.R. 847 caps the VCF at $8.4 billion, which is an invitation and a guarantee to spend $8.4 billion.
    All those wonderful things in 847, and the GOP is holding it up? BASTARDS!
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    Re: Two Major Conservative Obstacles Emerge To Tax Cut Compromise

    Shameful, disgraceful and beyond any rational excuse. Turning their backs on the brave men and women who rushed into those burning buildings on 911. Its just beyond any petty political excuse. Each GOP member who voted NO should have to go to the home of those brave men and women and explain their political excuses and see what reaction they get.

    Shame on them.
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    Re: Two Major Conservative Obstacles Emerge To Tax Cut Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Ever hear that old saying "what goes around comes around"? Barry and the Dims cut the Republicans out of all legislation for the past 2 years..... that was the dims idea of compromise.... now it's coming back to butt **** them, as it should.

    The Republicans screwed the pooch big time by giving in to the 13 month unemployment extension and should be ashamed of themselves (anyone that can't find a job in 6 months isn't looking. (and yes, I live in a rural area of a State with higher than average unemployment and it only took me 2 weeks to find 2 jobs, so I know what I'm talking about)..... seems like the dims aren't the only ones that didn't get the message in November.
    The fact that you think this is what really happened means our country is in huge trouble.

    Also the part where you think your personal anecdotal experience is somehow representative of a country of hundreds of millions of people.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Two Major Conservative Obstacles Emerge To Tax Cut Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Shameful, disgraceful and beyond any rational excuse. Turning their backs on the brave men and women who rushed into those burning buildings on 911. Its just beyond any petty political excuse. Each GOP member who voted NO should have to go to the home of those brave men and women and explain their political excuses and see what reaction they get.

    Shame on them.
    yeah... the list I posted is just full of piddling, unimportant ****, right?

    Blinders much?

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    Re: Two Major Conservative Obstacles Emerge To Tax Cut Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I really, really hope this is true and DeMint and his idiot acolytes scuttle this deal. Leave it to them to not be satisfied with getting 99% of what they want.
    Much better if they all hold their noses and vote for it now. If they don't it could still be unresolved for weeks or months to come.

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    Re: Two Major Conservative Obstacles Emerge To Tax Cut Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    yeah... the list I posted is just full of piddling, unimportant ****, right?
    Congrats - you finally got something right for a change. Compared to the 911 responders, it aint *#@%.
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    Re: Two Major Conservative Obstacles Emerge To Tax Cut Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Congrats - you finally got something right for a change. Compared to the 911 responders, it aint *#@%.
    those people were/are state employees correct?



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    Re: Two Major Conservative Obstacles Emerge To Tax Cut Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Does anyone know (or have an estimate) on how much the Bush tax cuts will cost for only the wealthiest 2 per cent of wage earners over the next 2-years?
    Tax cuts don't cost the govt. anything. Do you think your tax cut is an expense to the govt?

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