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    Re: Two Major Conservative Obstacles Emerge To Tax Cut Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Lets talk about fair

    if the bottom 98% vote to make the taxes on all income over 200K 100% is that fair?
    I wonder if Haymarket will bother to answer this



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    Re: Two Major Conservative Obstacles Emerge To Tax Cut Compromise

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    since you are so well educated on the concept of supreme court precedent tell us why the shift after Schecter.
    Since I was not on the Court when they rendered that decision, I defer to the authoritative primary source and you can read it for yourself

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    Re: Two Major Conservative Obstacles Emerge To Tax Cut Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I wonder if Haymarket will bother to answer this
    I cannot answer it because I do not know what the word FAIR means in the law or in the Constitution. If you could provide the authoritative definition I would certainly read it and then apply it to your example.
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    Re: Two Major Conservative Obstacles Emerge To Tax Cut Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Since I was not on the Court when they rendered that decision, I defer to the authoritative primary source and you can read it for yourself

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    so what you are saying is you don't have the ability to understand that it clearly was politics to cause such a reversal

    I understand that.



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    Re: Two Major Conservative Obstacles Emerge To Tax Cut Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I cannot answer it because I do not know what the word FAIR means in the law or in the Constitution. If you could provide the authoritative definition I would certainly read it and then apply it to your example.
    you and everyone else constantly talk about fairness

    would you think (you personally) it is fair--after all you seem to support the system that would allow that



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    Re: Two Major Conservative Obstacles Emerge To Tax Cut Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    so what you are saying is you don't have the ability to understand that it clearly was politics to cause such a reversal

    I understand that.
    Another Frankenstein monster creation of yours. Can you quote where I said such a thing? NO you cannot.

    What I told you is here is the decision. You read it. The Justices speak for themselves. I do not speak for them. Nor do you the last time I looked.
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    Re: Two Major Conservative Obstacles Emerge To Tax Cut Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you and everyone else constantly talk about fairness

    would you think (you personally) it is fair--after all you seem to support the system that would allow that
    All you have to do is provide for me the legal definition of FAIR as it applies to your suggestion and to the Constitution and I will be happy to apply it in your hypothetical.
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    Re: Two Major Conservative Obstacles Emerge To Tax Cut Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Lets talk about fair

    if the bottom 98% vote to make the taxes on all income over 200K 100% is that fair?
    Franklin D. Roosevelt already did this for those earning over $25,000 for a time with an executive order. He was an incredibly popular president. He was so popular that after his 4 terms (ending in his death in 1945), the 2 term limit was reenacted.

    If people like this can get elected over and over and over again it seems like we should do away with the ability of the public to vote for representatives, don't you think? The poor are DRASTICALLY overrepresented compared to the rich.
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    Re: Two Major Conservative Obstacles Emerge To Tax Cut Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    what we have issues with is that a system that once was fair was changed to a system where the many can constantly vote up the rates of the few because the many have more votes. Those in the top 5% are paying most of the federal income taxes and many in the bottom 95% are basically freeloaders
    Agrred. I am not sure if this system of government can work much longer.

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    Re: Two Major Conservative Obstacles Emerge To Tax Cut Compromise

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    Agrred. I am not sure if this system of government can work much longer.
    The pseudo-intellectual liberals who make up the majority of the left on this board have a stock reply that the rich should just bend over and take it. However, reality suggests that rich people tend to leave when they are gouged too much which is why Sweden's famous tennis stars of the 70s and 80s all lived in Monte Carlo as did some of the German pros like Boris Becker. I know, personally, 5 millionaires who have established residences in places such as the Turks and Cacos or Grand Cayman to prevent the death tax from raping their estates. Now some of the less thoughtful libs will say "good riddance" but as this happens more and more the amount of net tax payers decrease which will cause the parasite mindset to demand others who remain pay more and more


    it is a system that cannot continue to exist for long



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