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    Re: Tentative agreement reached on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    The oppressed are the ones living off others work and being oppressed by the progressives with the handouts.
    I don't get how you think "workers" are oppressed. Someone has to pay the bills.
    The worker is oppressed in this society merely by being a worker. Unless you are born into a particular class, you are born into a state of forced subservience to those who control wealth. There's a word for this form of slavery, and it's "employment."

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    Re: Tentative agreement reached on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    MOre communist nonsense. liberty and rights are not impositions on others

    study that fact
    Maybe you should chickity-check yourself before you wreck yourself.

    Study that fact.
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    Re: Tentative agreement reached on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Patria Antiqua View Post
    Maybe you should chickity-check yourself before you wreck yourself.

    Study that fact.
    My concept of liberty and rights are consistent with this country's traditions

    yours are not

    a right is the ability to do something without being punished by the government. Same with liberty. Liberty is the ability to act without the government interfering.

    your right to free speech does not require me to buy you a microphone. Your right to bear arms is not a just demand for a gunshop to give you a weapon. YOur ability to travel in this nation is not a claim on Ford to provide you a car or Delta to give you a free round trip airline ticket



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    Re: Tentative agreement reached on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    a sense of justice and fainess....and i really didn't mean for you to provide specific details.
    So to you, fairness is taking from those who earned it and giving to those who didn't?

    Justice is punishing those who succeed?

    Not trying to be snarky. Just really curious as to what liberals consider fairness.
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    Re: Tentative agreement reached on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    and by gosh it should be the workers,huh?
    Huh? Of course you should have to work if you want to pay the bills.
    Thing is liberals want the workers to pay the bills for those who don't work.
    Damn, you're forcing me to sound like a heartless bitch. (I'm not)
    There are those who can't work and when there are no other options, the government should take care of their needs. However, it's not governments job to take care of them from cradle to grave.
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    Re: Tentative agreement reached on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    My concept of liberty and rights are consistent with this country's traditions

    yours are not

    a right is the ability to do something without being punished by the government. Same with liberty. Liberty is the ability to act without the government interfering.

    your right to free speech does not require me to buy you a microphone. Your right to bear arms is not a just demand for a gunshop to give you a weapon. YOur ability to travel in this nation is not a claim on Ford to provide you a car or Delta to give you a free round trip airline ticket
    Appeal to tradition - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    cool story bro

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    Re: Tentative agreement reached on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    it involves each side actually giving something. This is the first time in 2 years I have seen republicans actually compromise.
    There was no compromise here. This was Obama handing the Republicans everything they asked for on a silver platter, while extracting a token, face-saving concession in the form of unemployment benefits so that he could trumpet it as a bipartisan compromise.
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    Re: Tentative agreement reached on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Patria Antiqua View Post
    The worker is oppressed in this society merely by being a worker. Unless you are born into a particular class, you are born into a state of forced subservience to those who control wealth. There's a word for this form of slavery, and it's "employment."
    It's called freedom to prosper if you have a good work ethic.
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    Re: Tentative agreement reached on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    The Republicans promised to keep taxes down for everyone, including small business owners and the uber rich job creaters. They did that.
    They gave in to extending the unemployment for another 13 months! Which they will get grief over from some on the right.
    This is exactly what I'm talking about. The Republicans gave Obama a 13-month unemployment extension. Obama gave the Republicans a 2-year extension of the Bush tax cut and a relatively low estate tax. That's hardly an equitable exchange; that's a token concession in exchange for capitulation. Everyone knows that the Republicans are NOT going to "get grief from some on the right" over this. There will be a few murmurs about unemployment benefits on the op-ed page of the Wall Street Journal for a few days, then everyone will forget about it. This is hardly the type of thing that are going to make conservatives become disillusioned with their congressional leadership.
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    Re: Tentative agreement reached on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Patria Antiqua View Post
    That fails. When you earn a law degree you can tell me why



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