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    Re: Tentative agreement reached on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean City View Post
    uh an untenured professor from a college I have never heard of doesn't disprove that lots of people in the north knew how to shoot well. where were the top marksmen in national competitions hailing from back then?

    while many of the shooting matches did not become organized until after the war, the hotbeds were places like Creedmore NY, Camp Perry and Vandalia Ohio

    the most renowned gunsmiths were in the NY-Connecticut valley where Colt, Remington, Winchester, Henry were founded. shooting contests thrived in the areas where gun makers and gunsmiths flourished. Can you name me a major arms manufacturer in the south prior to or within 50 years of the civil war?



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    Re: Tentative agreement reached on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    people like you aren't going to last long in gunfights with people like me
    About 300,000 Southerners felt the same way and they are lying in graves today and the South is still part of the Union. You are the better sharp shooter but you couldn't handle the M4 better than me and at the distance we'd probably be fighting that's all that would matter. Lets not even get into what the M2 Browning would do to you and your wife while you are trying to be snipers in an urban combat situation.

    P.S. Lets also not forget, only 46% of U.S. soldiers identify themselves with the Republican Party.

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    Re: Tentative agreement reached on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean City View Post
    About 300,000 Southerners felt the same way and they are lying in graves today and the South is still part of the Union. You are the better sharp shooter but you couldn't handle the M4 better than me and at the distance we'd probably be fighting that's all that would matter. Lets not even get into what the M2 Browning would do to you and your wife while you are trying to be snipers in an urban combat situation.

    P.S. Lets also not forget, only 46% of U.S. soldiers identify themselves with the Republican Party.
    don't bet your life on your claims. You really don't know much about anything. you gonna haul an M2 browning by yourself when someone is lining you up with a Barrett through a 16X NIghtforce scope? LOL. You can make a head shot at 800 meters in a 15 MPH crosswind? Sure you can. You ought to spend some time up at camp perry with people like J David Tubbs, MId Tompkins and his family. Or my old US Jr Team mate and roommate at the OTC Mike Anti. Big liberals they are not



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    Re: Tentative agreement reached on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    don't bet your life on your claims. You really don't know much about anything. you gonna haul an M2 browning by yourself when someone is lining you up with a Barrett through a 16X NIghtforce scope? LOL. You can make a head shot at 800 meters in a 15 MPH crosswind? Sure you can. You ought to spend some time up at camp perry with people like J David Tubbs, MId Tompkins and his family. Or my old US Jr Team mate and roommate at the OTC Mike Anti. Big liberals they are not
    800 meters? Most battlefield kills take place within 300 meters. I guess competition shooters really know nothing about warfare. This might educate you a little bit.

    "Following the end of World War II, the U.S. Army conducted a number of studies of what happened in the war and how it was actually fought. Several things were learned which applied directly to personal weapon design. Perhaps most important, research found that most combat casualties caused by small-arms fire took place at short range. So the long range and accuracy of the standard rifle was, in a real sense, wasted. Second, the research found that aiming was not a major factor in causing casualties. Instead, the number one predictor of casualties was the total number of bullets fired.[16] Third, psychological studies found that many riflemen (as much as 2/3) never fired their weapons at the enemy. By contrast, those soldiers equipped with rapid-fire weapons (submachine guns and the early assault rifles) were far more likely to actually use their weapons in battle.[17] This combination of factors led to the conclusion that a fairly short-range weapon capable of rapid fire would be the most effective general purpose weapon for infantry." Assault rifle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Re: Tentative agreement reached on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean City View Post
    800 meters? Most battlefield kills take place within 300 meters. I guess competition shooters really know nothing about warfare. This might educate you a little bit.

    "Following the end of World War II, the U.S. Army conducted a number of studies of what happened in the war and how it was actually fought. Several things were learned which applied directly to personal weapon design. Perhaps most important, research found that most combat casualties caused by small-arms fire took place at short range. So the long range and accuracy of the standard rifle was, in a real sense, wasted. Second, the research found that aiming was not a major factor in causing casualties. Instead, the number one predictor of casualties was the total number of bullets fired.[16] Third, psychological studies found that many riflemen (as much as 2/3) never fired their weapons at the enemy. By contrast, those soldiers equipped with rapid-fire weapons (submachine guns and the early assault rifles) were far more likely to actually use their weapons in battle.[17] This combination of factors led to the conclusion that a fairly short-range weapon capable of rapid fire would be the most effective general purpose weapon for infantry." Assault rifle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    LOL you are still talking about conventional warfare vs civil insurrection or rebellion. How many "assault weapons" have you actually fired? Owned? How many swat teams or entry teams have you trained?



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    Re: Tentative agreement reached on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    How many "assault weapons" have you actually fired? Owned? How many swat teams or entry teams have you trained?
    Remember, this is a debate on warfare/insurrection, not a penis measuring contest. Put your d*ck back in your pants.

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    Re: Tentative agreement reached on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean City View Post
    Remember, this is a debate on warfare/insurrection, not a penis measuring contest. Put your d*ck back in your pants.
    Nice concession your argument has been castrated. I am still waiting for an answer concerning your "expertise"



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    Re: Tentative agreement reached on tax cuts

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    Nice concession your argument has been castrated. I am still waiting for an answer concerning your "expertise"
    How has my argument been castrated? Because I want to stick to the debate instead getting into a personal exchange about gun credentials? Those type of back and forth dick measuring competitions never lead to anything but mods kicking both parties out of a thread. If you must know I was U.S. Army Military Police. 709th Military Police Bn. MOS 95B10 "66-68". Got out and went into law enforcement. Became interested in the carbines and assault rifles again when I thought about trying to make SWAT. Bought a Bushmaster M4-Type Carbine and started taking every reputable tactical carbine course I could find in my state to sharpen my skills. Never gave up my passion for the pistol and eventually took the classes and got the NRA law enforcement firearm certification. Had a kid and gave up on the SWAT idea. Now I teach firearms classes every once in a while.

    Now lets stick to the debate at hand and not derail this thread even farther than it already has been derailed.

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    Re: Tentative agreement reached on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean City View Post
    How has my argument been castrated? Because I want to stick to the debate instead getting into a personal exchange about gun credentials? Those type of back and forth dick measuring competitions never lead to anything but mods kicking both parties out of a thread. If you must know I was U.S. Army Military Police. 709th Military Police Bn. MOS 95B10 "66-68". Got out and went into law enforcement. Became interested in the carbines and assault rifles again when I thought about trying to make SWAT. Bought a Bushmaster M4-Type Carbine and started taking every reputable tactical carbine course I could find in my state to sharpen my skills. Never gave up my passion for the pistol and eventually took the classes and got the NRA law enforcement firearm certification. Had a kid and gave up on the SWAT idea. Now I teach firearms classes every once in a while.

    Now lets stick to the debate at hand and not derail this thread even farther than it already has been derailed.
    Bushmaster? Get a RRA or a Lewis Machine Tool or a Noveseke if you can afford it. You sound like one of my buddies. John Benner of TDI

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    Re: Tentative agreement reached on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean City View Post
    About 300,000 Southerners felt the same way and they are lying in graves today and the South is still part of the Union. You are the better sharp shooter but you couldn't handle the M4 better than me and at the distance we'd probably be fighting that's all that would matter. Lets not even get into what the M2 Browning would do to you and your wife while you are trying to be snipers in an urban combat situation.

    P.S. Lets also not forget, only 46% of U.S. soldiers identify themselves with the Republican Party.
    Where do you get your numbers from? Confederate battled deaths were around 94,000

    While you're at it, you can show us how many U.S. soldiers identify themselves as Democrats and/or Liberals.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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