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    Re: Tentative agreement reached on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Can you link to this?
    ask and ye shall recieve rev

    Answers.com - Why did the south believe they could win the Civil War

    The other point to remember was that the South saw itself as a far superior producer of soldiers than the North.
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    Re: Tentative agreement reached on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Yep, PenPencil22 who wrote the article is a link alright.

    I don't know... I like my history a little more ... legitimate.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Yep, PenPencil22 who wrote the article is a link alright.

    I don't know... I like my history a little more ... legitimate.
    I suspect you like your sources to simply agree with either your ideology or your own biases and damn their credentials or expertise.
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    Re: Tentative agreement reached on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I suspect you like your sources to simply agree with either your ideology or your own biases and damn their credentials or expertise.
    Well, your link just doesn't have anything behind it. No annotations, no references. PenPencil22 maybe a 12 year old who got an A on a report he handed into his 6th grade teacher and decided to put it on the internet. Whereas, my About.com link has sources, links, references and the guy who wrote it is pictured and at least seems to be a Military Historian - he's called one. Assuming that's true, I think a Military Historian with an MA from University of Delaware holds a little edge over the no source PenPencil22 when it comes to information on the interwebz.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Tentative agreement reached on tax cuts

    get real santa. this is not about proving that a bunch of Southerners told a historian that they could shoot better. Southerners believed that they were going to win in the same way that Turtle believes he and a small band of right wingers could hold off a citizen revolution because he is well armed. That was the context of the comment made by the other poster. If you do not like the link, lump it, screw it, forget it, F it. Thats up to you. It shows it was not something made up off the cuff and was not so much a definitive academic treatise on an aspect of history but a comment by Ocean that everybody thinks they are going to win the fight because they are better.

    Your link was very nice and thorough. If it only spoke to the issue in question it might even be deemed useful.
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    Re: Tentative agreement reached on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Animus View Post
    The dems are spineless. They sicken me almost as much as the republicans.

    American politics: giving more money to those who don't need it since 2000.
    Two lies in one sentence

    1) giving money to people--sorry tax cuts or keeping the tax rates the same is hardly GIVING anyone money

    2) "who don't need it" who are you to say who needs it. THe government certainly doesn't need more money that it will waste any way



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    Re: Tentative agreement reached on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    And somehow, someway I bet you have a definition of "FAIR" that just happens to coincidently benefit the poor also?
    fair starts with two concepts

    1) paying for what you use

    2) treating everyone equally

    progressive taxes fail either definition



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    Re: Tentative agreement reached on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    get real santa. this is not about proving that a bunch of Southerners told a historian that they could shoot better. Southerners believed that they were going to win in the same way that Turtle believes he and a small band of right wingers could hold off a citizen revolution because he is well armed. That was the context of the comment made by the other poster. If you do not like the link, lump it, screw it, forget it, F it. Thats up to you. It shows it was not something made up off the cuff and was not so much a definitive academic treatise on an aspect of history but a comment by Ocean that everybody thinks they are going to win the fight because they are better.

    Your link was very nice and thorough. If it only spoke to the issue in question it might even be deemed useful.
    more errors--the people who are on my side of your revolution will beat your side. why? because we have enough people and we are far far better trained in what counts.

    a bunch of SEIU thugs, lesbian activists, and college professors are gonna last along time against guys who shoot competitively and spend their free time stalking deer and shooting coyotes?



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    Re: Tentative agreement reached on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean City View Post
    Funny, that's what Southerners thought at the start of the civil war. They believed their familiarity with guns and hunting would allow them to easily beat the the city-dwelling yankees. They learned the hard way that individual skill with a weapon is hardly a factor in how wars are won.
    plenty of North/union guys knew how to hunt and shoot well. And the north was better nourished and didn't have the deleterious issue of massive hookwork infestations that plagued the southernn volunteers. The north also had far more facilities to manufacture munitions and weapons--the south was mainly importing stuff which was diminished through Union Naval blockades. having been on the US shooting team and a three time all-american and then general counsel for gun clubs, gun dealers and a couple Title II manufacturers (machine guns) I can tell you that I haven't run into many socialists, communists, liberal democrats or Obamatards in my travels around the USA competing or meeting with gun makers and world class shooters.



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    Re: Tentative agreement reached on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    God forbid taxes be fair.

    It's a lot easier to hate rich people for their hard work, intellect, and success.
    Stop making fallacious arguments.

    The fact is we just added 7 billion to our deficit by giving money to those who don't need it. Good work America.

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