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    Re: Tentative agreement reached on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    And somehow, someway I bet you have a definition of FAIR that just happens to coincidently benefit the rich also?
    And somehow, someway I bet you have a definition of "FAIR" that just happens to coincidently benefit the poor also?

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    Re: Tentative agreement reached on tax cuts

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    Really?
    Really.

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    The people who know more about this than you and I and do it for a living manage quite nicely to take those things into consideration when they evaluate cost of living. Which is probably good that you do not have that job.
    Which means what exactly other than you made a bad assumption lumping everyone and everything together. Fact is, cost of living is fairly wide in this country.

    Here's a tool that may help educate you to not generalize so blatantly.

    Cost of Living Comparison: compare Trenton, New Jersey to Fort Smith, Arkansas
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    Re: Tentative agreement reached on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Really.

    Which means what exactly other than you made a bad assumption lumping everyone and everything together. Fact is, cost of living is fairly wide in this country.

    Here's a tool that may help educate you to not generalize so blatantly.

    Cost of Living Comparison: compare Trenton, New Jersey to Fort Smith, Arkansas
    The Bureau of Labor Statistics has a series of brilliant statistics on expenditures, which you can find here.

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    Re: Tentative agreement reached on tax cuts

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    there will be blood? is that some sort of threat? what are you gonna do-start a revolution. I got news for you buddy. its people like me who know how to use weapons-

    not leftwing radical schoolteachers who are mad that the rich aren't going to get as screwed over as you want.

    But knock yourself out trying

    it will be fun to watch
    Funny, that's what Southerners thought at the start of the civil war. They believed their familiarity with guns and hunting would allow them to easily beat the the city-dwelling yankees. They learned the hard way that individual skill with a weapon is hardly a factor in how wars are won.

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    Re: Tentative agreement reached on tax cuts

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    Funny, that's what Southerners thought at the start of the civil war. They believed their familiarity with guns and hunting would allow them to easily beat the the city-dwelling yankees. They learned the hard way that individual skill with a weapon is hardly a factor in how wars are won.
    A most excellent point Ocean City. Most excellent. And it was one reason why the Southerners believed that the population advantage the North held would not be a factor in the war. We know what happened there.
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    Re: Tentative agreement reached on tax cuts

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    Funny, that's what Southerners thought at the start of the civil war. They believed their familiarity with guns and hunting would allow them to easily beat the the city-dwelling yankees. They learned the hard way that individual skill with a weapon is hardly a factor in how wars are won.


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    Re: Tentative agreement reached on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean City View Post
    Funny, that's what Southerners thought at the start of the civil war. They believed their familiarity with guns and hunting would allow them to easily beat the the city-dwelling yankees. They learned the hard way that individual skill with a weapon is hardly a factor in how wars are won.
    Actually, you have that bass ackwards. It was the north that thought it would be an easy victory. The first major battle was in Manassas, VA at the Battle of Bull Run. High society from Washington, DC rode to the battlefield to watch the northern troops under McDowell whip the Rebs. Instead, it was McDowell that got whupped and both Mcdowell and the society folks fled back to Washington in a panic. Lincoln fired McDowell and put McClelland in charge. Lincoln urged McClelland to attack Virginia which he did. He was also promptly whipped at the Second Battle of Bull Run.

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    Re: Tentative agreement reached on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Actually, you have that bass ackwards. It was the north that thought it would be an easy victory. The first major battle was in Manassas, VA at the Battle of Bull Run. High society from Washington, DC rode to the battlefield to watch the northern troops under McDowell whip the Rebs. Instead, it was McDowell that got whupped and both Mcdowell and the society folks fled back to Washington in a panic. Lincoln fired McDowell and put McClelland in charge. Lincoln urged McClelland to attack Virginia which he did. He was also promptly whipped at the Second Battle of Bull Run.

    A working knowledge of history is handy. Too bad many of today's youth don't have it.
    That's the way I understood the prelude and beginning of the Civil War. So I checked my memory and low and behold, Ocean City seems to be misinformed.

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    Aftermath of Bull Run

    In the fighting at Bull Run, Union forces lost 460 killed, 1,124 wounded, and 1,312 captured/missing, while the Confederates incurred 387 killed, 1,582 wounded, and 13 missing. The remnants of McDowell's army flowed back into Washington and for some time there was concern that the city would be attacked. The defeat stunned the North which had expected an easy victory and led many to believe that the war would be long and costly. On July 22, Lincoln signed a bill calling for 500,000 volunteers and efforts began to rebuild the army.
    LINK: First Battle of Bull Run - Civil War First Battle of Bull Run

    The Union thought Manassas (Bull Run) would have been an easy victory and would have put the South in it's place. The Union was wrong. I can't remember any view from the South that the war or fighting the North would be easy in any stretch of the imagination. All the major manufacturing centers were in the North as were all the trading centers.

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    Re: Tentative agreement reached on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    A most excellent point Ocean City. Most excellent.
    Too bad it's misleading fiction.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Tentative agreement reached on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    And somehow, someway I bet you have a definition of FAIR that just happens to coincidently benefit the rich also?
    FAIR would be everyone and every business, coughing up 5%. How much revenue would that come out to be?

    I bet it would be more than you would get by raising taxes on the rich by 3%. Not to mention, people would gladly pay a measly 5% and be done with it. They could have the option to pay it weekly, monthly, quarterly, or annually. Also, with the option to make extimated payments for the following year.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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