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    Re: Tentative agreement reached on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Patria Antiqua View Post
    A dog thanks his master even for scraps.

    It's sickly and subservient, but its true.
    no its not true-your idiotic socialist rants are seen as insane by most people. in nature people like you would starve in a short period of time



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    Re: Tentative agreement reached on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Patria Antiqua View Post
    No, I'm most certainly employed.
    so you also consider yourself subservient?

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    Re: Tentative agreement reached on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Z3n View Post
    Listen. I understand what you are arguing but you need to understand far-left axioms before you go bashing Patria. From his logic private ownership is theft. A by product of an economic system and state that perpetuates it. You have no natural claim to ownership of resources, as far as the far-left is concerned.
    Oh I understand the inane position of the far left. its almost anarcho-nihilism. but thanks



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    Re: Tentative agreement reached on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    no its not true-your idiotic socialist rants are seen as insane by most people. in nature people like you would starve in a short period of time
    Clearly, you've never owned a dog.

    I really don't care if most people see me as insane. All that means is that the popular will is against me. In most cases, that means a person is onto something.

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    Re: Tentative agreement reached on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    so you also consider yourself subservient?
    Yes.

    I was born a serf to the capitalist class, and, barring a drastic change in my circumstances, I will die a serf to the capitalist class.

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    Re: Tentative agreement reached on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Patria Antiqua View Post
    I see socialism as a more useful way to advance a nation to first world status. Given the choice between living in a stone age society, and living in a modern society, I choose modernity.

    Even so, it wouldn't break and reconstruct the system. Rather than exempt myself, I would rather work to create a society that ends the exploitation of those not lucky enough to be a mamber of the ruling class.
    There's always going to be a, "ruling class", even moreso under socialism. The difference is, you transfer the elitisim from the private sector to the government.

    We have a government that protects us from the private sector elite. But, who is going to protect us from the government.

    I hear about people, all the time, preaching socialism, but I rarely see them giving up their **** for the common good.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Tentative agreement reached on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    can you prove a link to validate that? and would you have a person making 25k a year pay the same % as a person making 250k a year, 0r 2.5MM a year?

    show me the math.
    Lets say everyone paid 25% income taxes to the IRS. Even if someone only made 15,000 after taxes they would net 11,250. I'm sure that would qualify them for government assistance, but that way they would be at least footing part of the bill.
    Someone making 250,000 would be paying 62,500, 1 million 250,000....
    just thinking...
    There would be little to no incentive not to work or not to continue to strive for even more.
    The more successful the more prosperity for the whole country.
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    Re: Tentative agreement reached on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Patria Antiqua View Post
    I see socialism as a more useful way to advance a nation to first world status. Given the choice between living in a stone age society, and living in a modern society, I choose modernity.

    Even so, it wouldn't break and reconstruct the system. Rather than exempt myself, I would rather work to create a society that ends the exploitation of those not lucky enough to be a mamber of the ruling class.
    Name a socialist country that has achieved first world status.

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    Re: Tentative agreement reached on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by drz-400 View Post
    Name a socialist country that has achieved first world status.
    Strawman. Socialism immediately follows the technlogical modernizations of neoliberalism. By design modernity of late-capitalism creates further income inequality, which socialism solves.

    The logic of orthodox Marxism is: once a society has moved into the pinnacle of advanced society and technology, inequality will widen due to permanent unemployment and automation to remain competition. Eventually material conditions create inevitable working-class revolution.
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    Re: Tentative agreement reached on tax cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Patria Antiqua View Post
    Yes.

    I was born a serf to the capitalist class, and, barring a drastic change in my circumstances, I will die a serf to the capitalist class.
    The only person that can change your circumstances, is you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Patria Antiqua View Post
    Clearly, you've never owned a dog.

    I really don't care if most people see me as insane. All that means is that the popular will is against me. In most cases, that means a person is onto something.
    I don't think anyone sees you as insane...
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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