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Ron Paul Says We Need More Wikileaks

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Ron Paul: ‘What we need is more WikiLeaks’ | Raw Story

I can see Ron's point and out of any Republican the past 10 years he always seems to have a clear cut reason why he thinks the way he does other than trying to sound like he is trying to cover his own ass. He seems to be the ONLY politician period that doesn't ever sound like he is trying to cover his own ass as well.
 
There is a portion of the libertarian agenda which seeks to damage the very institution of government as much as possible. Ron Paul is one of these folks and he knows well that this entire Wikileak scandal will only diminish the image of government in the eyes of some and possibly move a convert or two a bit closer to his religion.
 
And once again, I would proudly say, "No, we don't, Ron" or "You are way off base, Ron".
 
haymarket said:
There is a portion of the libertarian agenda which seeks to damage the very institution of government as much as possible. Ron Paul is one of these folks and he knows well that this entire Wikileak scandal will only diminish the image of government in the eyes of some and possibly move a convert or two a bit closer to his religion.
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I do not think that is why he wants more leaks at all. Read what he has said first then respond. Ron Paul, despite not agreeing with everything the man says, is pretty sharp and is one of those people that you have to pause, sit back and go "Touche salesman touche." So while I am not sure it is a good idea we get more leaks (I'm indifferent on the entire thing honestly) I like where he is going with this.

Ever seen the new Wall Street movie? While he definately took creative liberties to guess how the financial meltdown bailout sessions between the feds and banks went, the scary thing is, is it probably went something like that if not much worse.
 
Paul has made a fairly critical error here, turning from arguing that since people should not trust their government, they should seek it harm in its' legitimate functions.


it is an irresponsibility to claim that killing our friends is good for us because at least it embarrasses The Man.
 
Ron Paul seems to me like a man of integrity. I may not always agree with him, but he has my respect. And he's completely right in this case. Government needs to be held accountable for its actions. It's just fine for them to have all sorts of power, but they have to use it honestly and responsibly. That's the reason we have a free press, and why we promote that ideal. A government that has to keep its actions secret from its people is probably doing things it shouldn't be.
 
Like I said Ron Paul is by definition in every shape and form far more conservative than any conservative could hope to be and he is probably the closest thing a conservative will ever have to "the people representing the people" in our lifetime and he is treated like a criminal by both sides of the aisle. While I do not agree that secrets should be leaked, a certain kind of transparency, the kind Paul suggest should be something we all can agree on.
 
I read the article and I don't see anything wrong with his reasoning.. He doesn't want to hurt or destroy America, he wants us to know the truth.. and I can support that
 
Fantastically wrong as he is, Ron Paul seems to be a man of principle.

However, that's only because he has nothing in the way of serious political power. If he ever became a major political player, he would be just as beholden to interest groups and corporate wealth as every other politician.
 
Patria Antiqua said:
Fantastically wrong as he is, Ron Paul seems to be a man of principle.

However, that's only because he has nothing in the way of serious political power. If he ever became a major political player, he would be just as beholden to interest groups and corporate wealth as every other politician.
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Yeah, he's one of the very few politicians that is truly consistent with his ideology. I can respect that.

Of course, that consistency-no-matter-what is what makes him a monster.
 
haymarket said:
There is a portion of the libertarian agenda which seeks to damage the very institution of government as much as possible. Ron Paul is one of these folks and he knows well that this entire Wikileak scandal will only diminish the image of government in the eyes of some and possibly move a convert or two a bit closer to his religion.
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Libertarians don't need to destroy America.. the two party system is already doing it
 
SheWolf said:
Libertarians don't need to destroy America.. the two party system is already doing it
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Please never ever forget that Ron Paul is part of that two party system you blame.
 
Patria Antiqua said:
Fantastically wrong as he is, Ron Paul seems to be a man of principle.

However, that's only because he has nothing in the way of serious political power. If he ever became a major political player, he would be just as beholden to interest groups and corporate wealth as every other politician.
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The problem with what you are saying is, Ron Paul is insane. Ron Paul doesn't give a **** and IN FACT I think he is almost as legendary as Chuck Norris.
 
JohnWOlin said:
The problem with what you are saying is, Ron Paul is insane. Ron Paul doesn't give a **** and IN FACT I think he is almost as legendary as Chuck Norris.
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Ron Paul is the result of dividing by zero.
 
JohnWOlin said:
The problem with what you are saying is, Ron Paul is insane. Ron Paul doesn't give a **** and IN FACT I think he is almost as legendary as Chuck Norris.
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That is a plausible alternative explanation.
 
Patria Antiqua said:
That is a plausible alternative explanation.
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This is indeed very true. Ron Paul would have to be insane to go against the scary GOP machine for his strong stance on two issues:

-War is bad
-Weed kicks ass

Paul's reasoning behind these? How could a conservative call themselves conservative and want to keep dumping money into the war machine and not want to make money off of selling weed?
 
cpwill said:
Paul has made a fairly critical error here, turning from arguing that since people should not trust their government, they should seek it harm in its' legitimate functions.


it is an irresponsibility to claim that killing our friends is good for us because at least it embarrasses The Man.
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I don't believe that Ron Paul has a problem with government's legitimate functions, but it's illegitimate functions, which we the people, as the Constitutional owner of government, have a right to know about, so that we have a choice of doing something about it at the ballot box, or continuing to sit on our asses and let it continue.
 
Like I said for every one thing the Paul clan says I strongly disagree with, they say another thing that I couldn't agree with more. They are really a double edged sword that if I had no other choice, would chose them over anything because to my knowledge they don't really have to many interest outside of what they do right now.
 
I'm all for more leaks, the only reason all the GOP pinheads are calling for assassinations is because these leaks show how shady and corrupt our government is, not because its going to "endanger the troops" I see that as just more rhetoric to steer the people away from seeing the truth( seeing as most people take in all mainstream media as truth without filtering out all the B.S.) The fact that Ron Paul is always going against the grain tells me that he's legit and not just another typical politician who is being influenced by special interests. I would challenge anyone to find me a link to a cable or document released by wiki leaks that could pose a threat because after watching reporters and children be killed by an Apache helicopter, I have yet to see one that could pose this supposed "threat".
 
I agree with Ron Paul. I don't ever agree with Ron Paul but even a broken clock like him is right twice a day.
 
SheWolf said:
Libertarians don't need to destroy America.. the two party system is already doing it
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It's doing fine. It was doing fine when it had one party, it was fine when it had two parties. We are doing just fine.
 
Fiddytree said:
It's doing fine. It was doing fine when it had one party, it was fine when it had two parties. We are doing just fine.
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Yes, a whopping 9.8 unemployment rate, less than 1% GDP growth, we are doing just FINE. :/
 
I am not seeing dead bodies in the street, I'm not seeing civil war, I'm not seeing a massive disease killing us at an unprecedented rate....

Personally, even though times are tough, I think we are doing just fine from what the United States has gone through in the past. We will recover.
 
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