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    Re: Delaying Tax Vote Could Crash Stock Market

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    and you want to eat pie you did nothing to bake or create merely because you exist in the same area as the cook
    not exactly - what i do want is a mutual understanding that we all occupy the same space... we all use the same public common resources .... we all use each other .... and we are all a society together
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    Re: Delaying Tax Vote Could Crash Stock Market

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    not exactly - what i do want is a mutual understanding that we all occupy the same space... we all use the same public common resources .... we all use each other .... and we are all a society together
    but you want a system where the many can vote away the wealth of those who are a voting minority and you want the minority to pay for most of the stuff that those in the community use.

    the fact that you exist in the same geopolitical area as I do does not create a just claim by you on the property I own

    you and those who feel as you do always complain that the rich ought to be more "community minded" while your mindset seems to have problems telling the massive number of people who really give nothing that others will carry the load for them



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    Re: Delaying Tax Vote Could Crash Stock Market

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    the labor which is represented by that money (labor i have stored in monetary form) has already been taxed; now it is taxed again? furthermore, it is taxed when it makes money and then again when i get it in the form of 'income'? maybe this is a subjective question; but it doesn't seem to me how this isn't double taxation.
    You should also include property taxes and sales taxes, government toll roads as well in your calculations. Along with government tariffs, gas taxes etc

    All of which are paid for with taxed income
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    Re: Delaying Tax Vote Could Crash Stock Market

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    You should also include property taxes and sales taxes, government toll roads as well in your calculations. Along with government tariffs, gas taxes etc

    All of which are paid for with taxed income
    darn good point, and reason # 1,208 to move over to a retail-level sales tax.

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    Re: Delaying Tax Vote Could Crash Stock Market

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    darn good point, and reason # 1,208 to move over to a retail-level sales tax.
    However

    As the money that the retail store receives will be taxed, the money it pays to its employees will have been taxed so when they go and buy something that will be double taxed

    The conundrum of it all.
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    Re: Delaying Tax Vote Could Crash Stock Market

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    Yes, I agree.

    A one party "final solution" dictatorship is what this democracy needs.

    Round up the liberals and put them in labor camps before it's too late!
    Oh gawd yes. But first we make them put on the lotion.

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    Re: Delaying Tax Vote Could Crash Stock Market

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    There is no double tax. Money that makes money is taxed at a lower rate. You are not taxed on the principle.
    Send me your paypal account no. and I'll explain the taxation of C Corps, earnings and profits, and accumulated earnings.

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    Re: Delaying Tax Vote Could Crash Stock Market

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    but you want a system where the many can vote away the wealth of those who are a voting minority and you want the minority to pay for most of the stuff that those in the community use.
    If you do not like representative democracy I suggest you find a nation more to your liking. It is the way it is and that is what it is.


    the fact that you exist in the same geopolitical area as I do does not create a just claim by you on the property I own
    The Constitution and the government of the people, by the people and for the people disagree with you on that.

    you and those who feel as you do always complain that the rich ought to be more "community minded" while your mindset seems to have problems telling the massive number of people who really give nothing that others will carry the load for them
    I suspect that much of the rich would not be where they are today if they had not done so on the backs of the common people by enslaving them, exploiting them and dominating them through a rigged and corrupt system for much of our sad history. The great mass of working people indeed have carried the load for them and made it possible for them to be where they are today.
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    Re: Delaying Tax Vote Could Crash Stock Market

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    If you do not like representative democracy I suggest you find a nation more to your liking. It is the way it is and that is what it is.
    were we a representative democracy in 1800?

    The Constitution and the government of the people, by the people and for the people disagree with you on that.
    fascinating claim. where in the Constitution do you find a rejection of Jeffersons' oft-repeated warning against giving to some the 'right' to the product and property of others?

    I suspect that much of the rich would not be where they are today if they had not done so on the backs of the common people by enslaving them, exploiting them and dominating them through a rigged and corrupt system for much of our sad history. The great mass of working people indeed have carried the load for them and made it possible for them to be where they are today.

    then you have either no idea of the history you claim to have taught, or no idea of economics. fortunes are not made "off people's backs" unless it is literally slavery; and those who were rich via slavery were a tiny minority even in the antebellum South (and certainly they were ruined with the region after the War of the Rebellion). fortunes were made by helping others. the great mass of working people have benefited from the wealthy.

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    Re: Delaying Tax Vote Could Crash Stock Market

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    from Turtledude



    If you do not like representative democracy I suggest you find a nation more to your liking. It is the way it is and that is what it is.




    The Constitution and the government of the people, by the people and for the people disagree with you on that.



    I suspect that much of the rich would not be where they are today if they had not done so on the backs of the common people by enslaving them, exploiting them and dominating them through a rigged and corrupt system for much of our sad history. The great mass of working people indeed have carried the load for them and made it possible for them to be where they are today.
    my family liked this nation as it was original constituted for the most part. those who were around in the 1860's served in the Union army including the "hero of Fort Sumpter"



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