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    Re: BREAKING: Offshore Oil Rig Explodes 20 Miles From New Orleans

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    You said it didn't create any jobs. Are you retracting that and merely stating it doesn't create as many jobs?
    Of course not as many. Which is irrelvant, when you consider it doesn't create enough. I mean, hell, throwing aluminum cans on the side of the road creates jobs, but is that really what we want to hang our economy's hopes on?

    I have a novel idea! Let's let the market do what it's going to do and create jobs on it's own; less the government intrusion. Whatcha think? You prolly ain't gonna go for that, because you know as well as I do, that the green energy bull**** is going to lose.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: BREAKING: Offshore Oil Rig Explodes 20 Miles From New Orleans

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    And people wonder why I oppose MORE drilling
    I'm opposed to a regime that refuses to enforce the laws already on the books. In case you were wondering.........that would be mr obama's regime I'm talking about.
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    Re: BREAKING: Offshore Oil Rig Explodes 20 Miles From New Orleans

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    I honestly think we need to re-examine our current drilling efforts and scale back as necessary. I dont think we should stop altogether, but I think we need to be a little less ambitious and have more oversight of current operations. This last year is ample proof in that direction.
    Right.

    You need to keep importing your oil from Canada.

    We love it!!!

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    Re: BREAKING: Offshore Oil Rig Explodes 20 Miles From New Orleans

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Right.

    You need to keep importing your oil from Canada.

    We love it!!!
    I'm looking for importing food, after the over-reaching government starts putting farmers out of business.

    If we like imported oil, we're going to love imported food.
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    Re: BREAKING: Offshore Oil Rig Explodes 20 Miles From New Orleans

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    My immediate reaction was to think...wow...we might seriously need to rethink the whole deepwater drilling thing.

    Then a few things started to come to light.
    1-This happened 5 days and we havent heard a squirt about it.
    2-It wasnt a deepwater rig. in fact it wasnt an oil rig that exploded, it was a welding accident...a tragic but fairly commonplace industrial accident. in this case it injured 3 people.
    2a-Without reading the facts people will respond in a kneejerk fashion based on whatever supports their own ideology.
    3-Until we dont need fossil fuels, we need fossil fuels. If we shut down deepwater drilling and focused on Anwar, people would bitch and complain (even if they couldnt find Anwar on the map). If we focus on oil shale people will bitch. We extract fossil fuels from isolated sites in Colorado, Montana, or Utah (where people never visit) people will bitch.
    3a-Those same people that bitch will still drive cars and consume electricity...and some of them...specifically the leaders of their movements, have a propensity to fly in private planes, travel in SUVs, consume far more resources than average people, etc.
    4-Im ALL FOR clean fuel alternatives. I agree we should be working toward them. But in the meantime...we NEED fossil fuels. Deal with it.
    5-I love the ocean...Id live on the ocean if I could right now, and some day I plan to. I HATE the sight of oil wells off the coast of California. I really truly hate it. But if you refuse to allow on shore sites and refuse to properly use hydroelectric and other available fuel and energy sources, then you have to use what you use.

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    Re: BREAKING: Offshore Oil Rig Explodes 20 Miles From New Orleans

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    What is needed is leadership that avoids the political Bovine Scatology and ignores Environmentally ill groups and shuts down the EPA's nonsense, and works to solve the energy problems using brains and logic that most in the groups I mentioned and Government lack but by 100%.

    We have technology that allows coal to be used to generate clean power.

    We have technology to build totally electric cars with sufficient range to handle about 95% or more of all our travel needs, but the costs are made too high for no most people to afford. Why?

    You had better wake your dumb ass up to the reality that man caused Global Warming is a HOAX being used to tax the living hell out of us for nothing.

    You are falling for lies that are going to lead to poverty in a scale never seen in this Nation, and that will lead to tragedy and death.
    Your commentary is confusing.

    On the one hand, you're saying the U.S. should start looking at better, more economical and savvy fuel alternatives, i.e., clean coal and electric cars, but on the other hand you're saying global warming isn't as "problematic" nor will be as catastrophic as some predict. If I've read you wrong, I ask that you please clarify. For the record, you'd be the FIRST and ONLY Conservative I've heard echo such sentiments which I actually agree with.

    I DO NOT believe global warming in and of itself is a man made problem. I believe the Earth works in cycles. We had ice ages long before fossil fuels. Man's carbon footprint may be escalating Earth's warming/cooling cycle a bit faster, but I don't believe man is creating this problem. I see it as part of the nature of the planet. It's this rock's way of either balancing itself (or to put it another way correcting the screws man makes, i.e., cutting down some many trees...nature's oxygen scrubbers).

    On the issue of this country becoming more energy independent, I do believe we need to be far more aggressive in producing more energy efficient vehicles and power sources. After all, why should Ford produce a hybrid vehicle run off diesel fuel that gets 100 MPG while here in the US we're still barely getting past fuel efficiency standards that were set in the 1970's? I remember reading the sticker info on cars back in the '80s that made claims of getting 18-22 MPG city. I looked at the sticker of a 2011 Buick vehicle at my local mall just this weekend and it listed MPG in the city at - 18 MPG! In 2011!!! No wonder two of our auto companies needed a bailout!

    Thirty-years later and the fuel economy of our cars really haven't budged! Sure, were get more stylish vehicles with the latest gadgets, DVD players, sunroofs, anti-lock brakes, individual A/C controls, GPS, Blue Tooth, On-Star/Sync, better crash resistant A-frames, etc., but c'mon! You mean to tell me Europe deserves vehicles with the same or better upgrades in design and fuel efficiency but we do? And it's not just our automobiles. It's also our homes and workspaces.

    Councilmen may be overhyping the fear factor here, but I don't think his assessment of our lag behind other nations who got many of their ideas on energy efficiency from us mind you is off base.

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