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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    life isn't fair but dragging down other people isn't the answer. we make failure way too easy in this country and it has created a massive explosion of people who think the government exists to take care of them and others exist to pay for what they want
    How about reforming the insurance industry?
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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Z3n View Post
    How about reforming the insurance industry?
    be my guest. my son was born with a birth defect-nothing awful but 17 surgeries later he is finally over them (we think) and I had no issues with my insurance company



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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    be my guest. my son was born with a birth defect-nothing awful but 17 surgeries later he is finally over them (we think) and I had no issues with my insurance company
    You are very very lucky
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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    with all those credentials why not start your own business like so many other people have done.
    Because starting ones own business requires capital which many people don't have. Last time I checked even the SBA required collateral for loans (usually liquid like bank accounts). Often times asked question to the SBA is > "if I had $30K in the bank, who needs you ?"

    Also, starting one's own business requires disposeable income in the community among potential purchasers of your products. With an obscenely low minimum wage, jobs disappearing to low wage foreigners overseas in international outsourcing, more jobs disappearing to low wage foreigners inside the USA in domestic outsourcing (AKA immigration), who are you going to sell to ?
    When I had a business back in the 80s & 90s, my biggest problem was all the people who couldn't afford to purchase my products, and the economy was better then than it is now. As I walk around my local mall, I see a lot of For Rent signs in the storefront windows. Needs to be more money among the lower economic classes. That's where consumer purchasing comes from. Rich people don't buy stuff here. They spend in Europe and the Caribbean.
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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    be my guest. my son was born with a birth defect-nothing awful but 17 surgeries later he is finally over them (we think) and I had no issues with my insurance company
    If it was a life-long ailment, an accountant in that company would have tabulated the costs to the company vs. the premiums you pay. Cost is above a certain amount ? You're gone. Only way you stay covered, is with national health insurance, and you may need it someday.

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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Protectionist View Post
    Maybe that's because you haven't been someone who had a master's degree, 2 skilled trades, and recently found himself (after 2 years of looking everywhere else, and not having any friend or relative connections) applying for a job at Burger King, only to be told by the manager that he wasn't taking applications. When you asked why, he opened a file drawer, and showed you a stack of applications 2 feet thick, and said "here's 700 applications taken in over the past 3 months. Why take any more ?" And you say "Uh, yeah." and walk away. Understand now ?
    You seem to be consumed with you own impression of how valuable you are to the job market. If you can't find a ****ing job in two ****ing years maybe you need to rethink how precious you really are. 90% of the population has managed to find work...



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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

    This poll is so close that its essentially meaningless.

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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Z3n View Post
    You are very very lucky
    That is an interesting way of looking at it



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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    This poll is so close that its essentially meaningless.
    Only 26% of the nation thinks the tax part of the bill as is is the best option. Heck, not even 50% of Republicans.

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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Yeah! If you don't pay a specific type of tax, you don't DESERVE an opinion on things! Plus, EVERY person who pays no income tax is definitely a class-envy liberal who just wants to steal money from the rich. There are definitely no poor people who vote Republican.
    Who says they dont have a right to an OPINION. I believe the point made is that it shouldnt be totally shocking that people with their hands out and constantly wanting more should have the opinion that wealthy people should be required to take care of them.

    What I cant wait to see is all the people on the left that BELIEVE this philosophy start actually LIVING it without the government forcing them to. I cant weait for all the rich liberals (lets start in congress since the majority of rich in congress are democrats) to start selling off their evil excesses and living a much more spartan lifestyle...not becaus ehte government tells them they have to but because its what they truly believe. Keep ONLY that 250k a year...and maybe a little in the bank to live on. Donate all of their excess to charities. No more mansions, or private islands, or yachts. Live what you pretend to believe without the government doing it to you or everyone else.

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