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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

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    While working I had a payroll of over 1200 employees with a mixture of hourly and salaried employees. My managers made 45K a year plus a bonus that could put them over 80k a year. The Hourly employees started at $8 an hour with 6 month reviews and pay raises if they qualify. They also had bonus opportunities of over $200 a month and I always promoted from within for manager positions. All employees including part time had the opportunity for healthcare in which I paid 80% of the premiums. Since most of the group were younger thus invincible less than 50% chose to participate.

    In spite of this I had employees steal from the company with one employee stealing over $75000. These are the people liberals refuse to acknowledge exist and are the ones they want tax dollars to help. They are also the ones that will sit on their butts for the maximum amount of time drawing unemployment checks as no one will hire them. Unfortunately there weren't just a few like that. Guess haymarket wants them to have further taxpayer assistance.

    The only thing preventing them from advancing and making good money was them as the opportunities were there. My turnover percentage was about 100% a year meaning about 1200 new hires each year which required training costs. So all isn't glory in the business world.
    100% turnover? Doesn't sound like a liberal problem. Sounds like a problem with the company itself.
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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

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    100% turnover? Doesn't sound like a liberal problem. Sounds like a problem with the company itself.
    Hardly, a lot of young people working their way through college and moving on to bigger and better things. Some actually stayed on after college or took other jobs in the company. 100% turnover isn't bad if it is the right kind of turnover and for the right reasons. $8 an hour starting pay for hourly employees is over minimum wage, $200+ in bonus dollars a month, holiday pay and overtime, opportunities for advancement, college reimbursement, health care. So something wrong with the company? $45K a year plus bonus to 80K plus benefits and a liberal 401k plan for managers sound bad to you?

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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

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    100% turnover? Doesn't sound like a liberal problem. Sounds like a problem with the company itself.
    A grocery store especially one that seemingly employeed alot of young people will have a very high turnover as students tend to change jobs often. Also given limited opportunities for career development, (a store only needs so many managers or assistant managers) skilled employees would also leave on a regular basis to seek better paying jobs


    Although 100% turnover is I believe quite high for any grocery store. I would expect that level in fast food places more then a well run grocery store
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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

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    A grocery store especially one that seemingly employeed alot of young people will have a very high turnover as students tend to change jobs often. Also given limited opportunities for career development, (a store only needs so many managers or assistant managers) skilled employees would also leave on a regular basis to seek better paying jobs


    Although 100% turnover is I believe quite high for any grocery store. I would expect that level in fast food places more then a well run grocery store
    It wasn't a grocery store but notice how individuals immediately question the company. Obviously people who never ran a business don't understand that all these employees get paid with the owner the last one, getting what is left over. Guess that is fair in the liberal world

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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

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    A grocery store especially one that seemingly employeed alot of young people will have a very high turnover as students tend to change jobs often. Also given limited opportunities for career development, (a store only needs so many managers or assistant managers) skilled employees would also leave on a regular basis to seek better paying jobs


    Although 100% turnover is I believe quite high for any grocery store. I would expect that level in fast food places more then a well run grocery store
    I wouldn't expect 100% turnover even at a grocery store or a fast food place. High turnover, certainly, because of the nature of the job, but not 100%. My brother's been working at a grocery store for 9 years. I know a couple of people who have been there that long or longer.
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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

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    It wasn't a grocery store but notice how individuals immediately question the company. Obviously people who never ran a business don't understand that all these employees get paid with the owner the last one, getting what is left over. Guess that is fair in the liberal world
    Firstly, you are assuming that I have never run a business. 100% turnover... that's outrageous and says something about the company. And, if you want to go the partisan hack route, a CONSERVATIVE ran a business that was crummy enough that every single employee left within the year. Perhaps if CONSERVATIVES had a bit more concern about their employees that wouldn't happen.

    Now, do you want to discuss the topic without your normal partisan hackery, or do you want to continue this? Because if you do, I'll gladly keep going.
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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I wouldn't expect 100% turnover even at a grocery store or a fast food place. High turnover, certainly, because of the nature of the job, but not 100%. My brother's been working at a grocery store for 9 years. I know a couple of people who have been there that long or longer.
    Bet if you check with the owner there turnover is quite high as well but with 1200 employees in 140 locations the turnover is high as is the promotion rate. There is also a lot of forced turnover due to theft, absenteeism, or other personal factors. This was a second job for some, second income for others, part time for others and all that factored in. My question is why do you first question the quality of the company and not the quality of the employee?

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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

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    It wasn't a grocery store but notice how individuals immediately question the company. Obviously people who never ran a business don't understand that all these employees get paid with the owner the last one, getting what is left over. Guess that is fair in the liberal world
    WTF

    I stated that high turnover would be expected at a grocery store due to the people being hired and lack of opportunities for skilled employees and you go on a tangent ranting about Liberals.



    And some offense, I strongly doubt you ran a 140 store chain, you do not appear to have the knowledge base to be able to run an operation of that size. Perhaps being the manager of store, but certainly not a 140 store chain
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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

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    Bet if you check with the owner there turnover is quite high as well but with 1200 employees in 140 locations the turnover is high as is the promotion rate. There is also a lot of forced turnover due to theft, absenteeism, or other personal factors. This was a second job for some, second income for others, part time for others and all that factored in. My question is why do you first question the quality of the company and not the quality of the employee?
    If you had said a fast food restaurant with 75% turnover, I would have questioned both. 100% turnover is outrageous and reflects on the company. Or are you trying to say that every single employee was a problem? That sounds like YOU are blaming everything on the employees and not considering the quality of the company. Perhaps the company should have looked at their hiring practices... considering that 100% of their employees needed to leave after a year because of theft, absenteeism, or other personal issues. Sounds like their Human Resources Department wasn't so great.
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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    WTF

    I stated that high turnover would be expected at a grocery store due to the people being hired and lack of opportunities for skilled employees and you go on a tangent ranting about Liberals.
    It's what he does. He can't accept that if a company has 100% turnover it might have something to do with the company. He'd rather place the blame on some external source rather than placing responsibility where it belongs. I thought conservatives were big on responsibility.
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