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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Too much faith is put into the Federal Govt and not enough at the state level. There was a reason our forefathers supported a small central govt. as they wanted the power closest to the people. That is contrary to the liberal ideology today. Liberals prefer passing the responsibility to the Federal Govt because they cannot get things done at the state and local levels. That is delegating responsibility and that is something no one can ever do.
    Too much faith is put into the Federal Govt and not enough at the state level, and then too much faith is put into state level and not enough at the personal level. No one is disputing any of that....
    But, we still need a level playing field, and if state AND federal law enforcement won't adequately prosecute the criminals in the market, we will never have a level playing field....
    Breach of fiduciary trust laws need to be expanded. If you rip off your clients, you go to jail, period.
    Did you catch the evening news yesterday? Seems an elderly widow had almost a million dollars taken from her by COURT APPOINTED guardians.....lawyers, of course. They invented reasons to charge her fees, exorbitant fees, and when relatives tried to stop the theft, they just charged the widow more fees to fight the relatives.
    Forget the feds, or the state, that lawfirm should be visited by a thousand seniors armed with baseball bats...
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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Sounds like you come from northeast Houston. LOL!
    The one sibling, other than me, that has money lives in Kingwood....MANY of her neighbors were Enron employees, with too much of their retirement invested in Enron savings plans. They lost it all.
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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    we don't have a lot saved. my husband has a pension, which we will live on while we sail, and then we can tap into my 401 and ira when we are too old to sail. i'm 51, i could keep working, but what the hell? we don't want to live our lives thinking about what we will do later, i'd rather do now and worry about later, later. we've seen too many people work their asses off, retire, and die.
    We retired early, me at 57, her at 59 or 60, I forget, anyway, we were able to because we had multiple eggs and mulitple baskets and no debt.
    Had a friend die a few years back, kept telling his wife that they would travel when he retired. He got cancer at 60, took 4 years to die. So much for enjoying retirement...
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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Many liberals are arrogant, that is true, but many conservatives are ignorant....given a choice, I will go with arrogant.
    In fact, my granddaughter's brain surgeon is arrogant, according to his own staff. But he has cause to be, he is very good at what he does....
    What's Obama's excuse for being arrogant?
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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    You are leaving out the ones who don't have jobs, thanks to greedy "entrepeneurs" who jimmied the real estate business...

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    "entrepeneurs" like Barney Frank and the real estate business, of government run Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac?

    I can't wait until the GOP has hearings on them.
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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    What's Obama's excuse for being arrogant?
    Excuse, or reason? One word indicates a right leaning person, the other word a left leaning person...

    I suppose he and the democrats get no credit for getting so much done lately, with help from some republicans....it was in the news all week...
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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    "entrepeneurs" like Barney Frank and the real estate business, of government run Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac?

    I can't wait until the GOP has hearings on them.
    Barney is a politician, or did he find a way to profit? I wouldn't be surprised at that...
    There is blame on both sides, and I hope all of them get their comeuppance...
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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Guess you are going to have to determine for yourself why businesses are moving to TX and why the population is growing here. Let me give you another hint, it isn't illegals as you indicated. Apparently in the liberal world taxes have little affect on economic decisions. After spending 35 years in the business world I know for a fact taxes play a major role in economic decision making. Taxes add to the costs and if those costs cannot be passed on to the consumer, businesses lose business, lose jobs, and negatively impact the economy.
    Like attracts like, where Texas is concerned. Basic psychology. I personally think it's a good thing. Nice to have them all in one place when they formally declare war on the United States.

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    Texas is #49 in verbal SAT scores in the nation (493) and #46 in average math SAT scores (502). Texas Where We Stand: Education

    Texas has a $25 BILLION budget shortfall for 2011 2011 Budget Shortfall | Topic | The Texas Tribune

    Overall, Texas ranks 1st among states for total toxic pollutants released to air, land and water. Conversely, it ranks 46th in the country in terms of per capita spending to address these environmental problems. http://www.texascenter.org/sunset/ranking.pdf

    Shall I go on?

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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Kev316 View Post
    Like attracts like, where Texas is concerned. Basic psychology. I personally think it's a good thing. Nice to have them all in one place when they formally declare war on the United States.

    Texas Fun Facts

    Currently, Texas is dead last in the nation in high school diplomas. Why Does Texas Rank Last in High School Diplomas? — Public Education | The Texas Tribune

    Texas is #49 in verbal SAT scores in the nation (493) and #46 in average math SAT scores (502). Texas Where We Stand: Education

    Texas has a $25 BILLION budget shortfall for 2011 2011 Budget Shortfall | Topic | The Texas Tribune

    Overall, Texas ranks 1st among states for total toxic pollutants released to air, land and water. Conversely, it ranks 46th in the country in terms of per capita spending to address these environmental problems. http://www.texascenter.org/sunset/ranking.pdf

    Shall I go on?

    I'm stayin' in Illinois.
    Sounds like they have one really amazing thing going down there. I notice the Cowboys fell flat also this year.
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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Kev316 View Post
    Like attracts like, where Texas is concerned. Basic psychology. I personally think it's a good thing. Nice to have them all in one place when they formally declare war on the United States.

    Texas Fun Facts

    Currently, Texas is dead last in the nation in high school diplomas. Why Does Texas Rank Last in High School Diplomas? — Public Education | The Texas Tribune

    Texas is #49 in verbal SAT scores in the nation (493) and #46 in average math SAT scores (502). Texas Where We Stand: Education

    Texas has a $25 BILLION budget shortfall for 2011 2011 Budget Shortfall | Topic | The Texas Tribune

    Overall, Texas ranks 1st among states for total toxic pollutants released to air, land and water. Conversely, it ranks 46th in the country in terms of per capita spending to address these environmental problems. http://www.texascenter.org/sunset/ranking.pdf

    Shall I go on?

    I'm stayin' in Illinois.
    How can there be a budget shortfall when the Legislature hasn't met yet and the numbers aren't there for review? TX has a part time legislature that meets every two years. The next session is upcoming and they will create a budget. TX has to have a balanced budget and my bet is they will do it without raising taxes. By the way no state income taxe here either.

    Dead last in the nation in high school diplomas but number one in Fortune 1000 companies? Make sense to you. I prefer you staying in Illinois and keeping your social engineering there. TX just elected another 20 Republicans to the Legislature so it now has 101 Republicans and 49 Democrats. Come see me in two years.

    I do want to thank you for sending Caterpillar to us with their thousands of jobs. I really have no problem with you remaining in one of the highest tax states in the country. I would prefer people like you remaining in those states as you would never survive here.

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