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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Could you please tell all of us how you managed to sleep through the terrible Wall Street disasters of this past decade?
    and before that, Enron, and before that, the S&L debacle.....
    Problem is, once we catch these bastards, they get a few years in a country club environment, and are fined a portion of the amount they stole. The govt wants their share of the ill gotten gains more than they want the small investor to get any of their losses recaptured.
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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    How did that terrible Wall Street disaster hurt you and your family? There are no guarantees in life except in the liberal utopian world yet for some reason when people get to that utopian world promised, they find debt, disaster, and abuses of taxpayer dollars. what is the liberal answer? Throw more money at the problem?
    Nobody here is asking for utopia, but we would like a gurantee that the govt will weed out the crooks so our money that we invest, and Wall Street "manages" for us, is safe from fraudulent practices. We have several govt agencies well staffed with coffee drinkers, porn viewers, game players, but apparently not well staffed with forensic accountants eager to put white collar criminals in prison.
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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Nobody here is asking for utopia, but we would like a gurantee that the govt will weed out the crooks so our money that we invest, and Wall Street "manages" for us, is safe from fraudulent practices. We have several govt agencies well staffed with coffee drinkers, porn viewers, game players, but apparently not well staffed with forensic accountants eager to put white collar criminals in prison.
    i thought the market could police itself?

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    The market will take care of greedy entreprenuers but in your world there are no consequences for failure. If that individual invests their own money and chooses to be greedy they will fail. Where does personal responsibility rest in your world?
    Show me one post by me that indicates I am against personal responsibility.....you can't, because I am for it. I have one well off sibling, and several poor siblings. If the poor siblings would show some effort to make it on their own, I would help them. But when they lose their SS check at the casino, they are on their own....
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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Nobody here is asking for utopia, but we would like a gurantee that the govt will weed out the crooks so our money that we invest, and Wall Street "manages" for us, is safe from fraudulent practices. We have several govt agencies well staffed with coffee drinkers, porn viewers, game players, but apparently not well staffed with forensic accountants eager to put white collar criminals in prison.
    Too much faith is put into the Federal Govt and not enough at the state level. There was a reason our forefathers supported a small central govt. as they wanted the power closest to the people. That is contrary to the liberal ideology today. Liberals prefer passing the responsibility to the Federal Govt because they cannot get things done at the state and local levels. That is delegating responsibility and that is something no one can ever do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i thought the market could police itself?
    Ask the state of California how giving the poor a debit card worked out? In Houston after Katrina Debit cards were given out to the people of New Orleans. How did that work out? Until there are consequences for failure you are barking up the wrong tree.

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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Amazing how smart you are because obviously that didn't affect you. It didn't affect me either because I transferred my holdings into cash in 2008. I learned a long time ago personal responsibility. Seems that more and more don't understand that concept
    We transferred in 2007, then spent a lot of it building our retirement house. Withdrawals from my IRA and 401K triggered some horrendous tax bills, but at least we didn't lose it in the market, and we aren't paying interest on a mortgage.
    But guess what many market gurus were saying in 2007? Were they warning the small investor? No, they were not....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I have no interesting in providing you with the benefits of you keeping more of your own money and the failures of liberal social spending startign with the Great Society. You believe it was a success? So tell me how many trillions have been spent to eradicate poverty? In 1965 there were 175 million Americans and a Federal Budget of 250 billion. Today there ar 308 million Americans and a budget of 3.6 trillion dollars. I can see how all that social spending has worked.
    2 facts hardly make a theory....
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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    We transferred in 2007, then spent a lot of it building our retirement house. Withdrawals from my IRA and 401K triggered some horrendous tax bills, but at least we didn't lose it in the market, and we aren't paying interest on a mortgage.
    But guess what many market gurus were saying in 2007? Were they warning the small investor? No, they were not....
    we took a hit......but we also cashed out some and bought our boat...(our home). so, no mortgage for us either.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i thought the market could police itself?
    That was the idea with the banks, but it didn't work so well...
    btw, if sailing is like sex to these people, they are doing it wrong.....
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