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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Sorry, their own income isn't sufficient....thanks to the income gap getting bigger and bigger and bigger....
    but we shouldn't care, we gots ours, right?
    You think it is the Federal Govt's role to tell Private business what to pay its employees? Stop thinking with your heart and start using your brain. There is only one thing preventing individuals from achieving success and that is the individual poor choices made. We have equal opportunity in this country NOT equal outcome. Amazing how 47% of income earners don't pay any Federal Income taxes yet liberals want to focus on Wall Street while ignoring that actual reality.

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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Could you please tell all of us how you managed to sleep through the terrible Wall Street disasters of this past decade?
    How did that terrible Wall Street disaster hurt you and your family? There are no guarantees in life except in the liberal utopian world yet for some reason when people get to that utopian world promised, they find debt, disaster, and abuses of taxpayer dollars. what is the liberal answer? Throw more money at the problem?

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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Actually my definition of success for those programs would be feeding the hungry and treating the sick.
    Regardless of the cost and as long as someone else pays for it? that is liberal logic and how liberals create dependence.

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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    You are leaving out the ones who don't have jobs, thanks to greedy "entrepeneurs" who jimmied the real estate business...

    But I agree that the states should have the power, and responsibility, to deal with these issues. The closer to home the criminals, the sooner law enforcement will be able to weed out and incarcerate the crooks. We will need more prisons, tho...

    And as a form of cruel and unusual punishment, they should be forced to listen to ubercon pundits for 16 hours a day...
    The market will take care of greedy entreprenuers but in your world there are no consequences for failure. If that individual invests their own money and chooses to be greedy they will fail. Where does personal responsibility rest in your world?

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    The market will take care of greedy entreprenuers but in your world there are no consequences for failure. If that individual invests their own money and chooses to be greedy they will fail. Where does personal responsibility rest in your world?
    Actually, the American taxpayers took care of much of it..... the market failed miserably.
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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Regardless of the cost and as long as someone else pays for it? that is liberal logic and how liberals create dependence.
    Did I miss the part where you presented damning information from an objective authoritative source about the cost?

    Could you present it again please?
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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Millions and millions are invested in Wall Street without any problems, yet you focus on the exception rather than the rule. That is what liberals always do and you support that kind of arrogance? You don't seem to get it, but food stamps, medical care, welfare are state and local issues, not a Federal issue. Why anyone would support these being handled by the bloated Federal Govt. is beyond me.
    Millions? How naiive are you? It is TRILLIONS, and having access to even a very small percentage of those kinds of numbers is an invitation to fraud. But we could eliminate all the fraud and we would still be left with an uneven playing field. Insider trading is going on constantly. The small investors should abandon the stock market, and pay off their debts. That would reduce the amount of money available for the thieves in the market, and secure the financial future of the common folk....
    And I already agreed about letting the states handle their own problems, without federally supported budgets.

    FYI, it is usually the exception that we should focus on...that is where the damage is done...
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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Millions? How naiive are you? It is TRILLIONS, and having access to even a very small percentage of those kinds of numbers is an invitation to fraud. But we could eliminate all the fraud and we would still be left with an uneven playing field. Insider trading is going on constantly. The small investors should abandon the stock market, and pay off their debts. That would reduce the amount of money available for the thieves in the market, and secure the financial future of the common folk....
    And I already agreed about letting the states handle their own problems, without federally supported budgets.

    FYI, it is usually the exception that we should focus on...that is where the damage is done...
    Amazing how smart you are because obviously that didn't affect you. It didn't affect me either because I transferred my holdings into cash in 2008. I learned a long time ago personal responsibility. Seems that more and more don't understand that concept

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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

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    You think it is the Federal Govt's role to tell Private business what to pay its employees? Stop thinking with your heart and start using your brain. There is only one thing preventing individuals from achieving success and that is the individual poor choices made. We have equal opportunity in this country NOT equal outcome. Amazing how 47% of income earners don't pay any Federal Income taxes yet liberals want to focus on Wall Street while ignoring that actual reality.
    agree, when we poor uninformed individuals make the choice to TRUST SOMEONE ELSE with our money, that is the first step towards failure.
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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Did I miss the part where you presented damning information from an objective authoritative source about the cost?

    Could you present it again please?
    I have no interesting in providing you with the benefits of you keeping more of your own money and the failures of liberal social spending startign with the Great Society. You believe it was a success? So tell me how many trillions have been spent to eradicate poverty? In 1965 there were 175 million Americans and a Federal Budget of 250 billion. Today there ar 308 million Americans and a budget of 3.6 trillion dollars. I can see how all that social spending has worked.

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