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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    actually turtle, to correct you yet another time - the Progressive Income Tax was a result of an Amendment to the US Constitution - the 16th to be specific.
    Oh? Where does the 16th Amendment mention anything about progressive taxation? This oughta be good.

    Perhaps it was discussed in those "hundreds" of Supreme Court cases heard before Marbury v. Madison.
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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    actually turtle, to correct you yet another time - the Progressive Income Tax was a result of an Amendment to the US Constitution - the 16th to be specific. It did not come from the courts - be they left or right so your mention of it in your screed against court decisions is badly out of place. And remember, it was Republicans who championed it.

    your example of an ideological radical SC doing away with precedent and going their own way is a perfect illustration of the Citizens United decision.

    and turtle, it sounds like that Ned Beatty part really stuck with you over the years. You really do give us far too much personal information.
    since you want to argue constitutional law with me, what caused the supreme court to reject the precedent of Schechter Poultry?



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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Oh? Where does the 16th Amendment mention anything about progressive taxation? This oughta be good.

    Perhaps it was discussed in those "hundreds" of Supreme Court cases heard before Marbury v. Madison.
    ouch that's gonna leave a big mark



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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You do love the strawman. Without one you would be lost completely and utterly.
    Then you shouldn't have said it.
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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    gee if I were talking about the income tax specificaly you might have a point. since I was not-you do not (again)
    No - you tried to squeeze in your personal cause celebre - the progressive income tax - in your rant about SC decisions and precedent. You were talking about the roof leaking but then decided to scream about the basement at the same time because its part of the house. Its almost a pathological obsession with you that you cannot even control or moderate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Then you shouldn't have said it.
    You do not even make sense. And you two really need to get a room.
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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You do not even make sense.
    On the contrary; I make perfect sense. You simply have no idea what the words you type actually mean, apparently:

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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    On the contrary; I make perfect sense. You simply have no idea what the words you type actually mean, apparently:
    Haymarket's stock response to uncomfortable counterpoints is to claim it doesnt make sense. He might well be right. rational thought and logic really are not sensible to those whose positions tend to be emotionally grounded.



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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

    I have no doubt that there is a point that makes sense to you somewhere in your own mind.

    turtle, your own positions here are the most emotionally based I have seen on this board. Every one of them is based on your own ego, your own selfishness and your own justification of what you think you are.
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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    No - you tried to squeeze in your personal cause celebre - the progressive income tax - in your rant about SC decisions and precedent. You were talking about the roof leaking but then decided to scream about the basement at the same time because its part of the house. Its almost a pathological obsession with you that you cannot even control or moderate.
    More psychobabble. its you you cannot control your desire to demand the wealth of others. we merely ask to be left alone and to merely pay the same rate as others. You demand we pay a higher rate than you do. Yo are not even willing to apply your own demands on yourself, that is hypocrisy



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