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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    MOre silly lies from you. who do you think hospitals help? What a stupid post
    Hit a raw nerve, did I now? Consider yourself as collateral damage and move on.

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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    Hit a raw nerve, did I now? Consider yourself as collateral damage and move on.

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    that is even more moronic. I just laugh at the specious bovine excrement you spew. you just make stuff up with no support.



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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    Hit a raw nerve, did I now? Consider yourself as collateral damage and move on.

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    There are several rude conservatives here at DP who only have a few things to say, and think that repeating those same things over and over again is actual debating. I have put most of them on ignore, and there are 2 more who are on a short leash.
    Their basic problem is that they can't disagree without being disagreeable...
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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    There are several rude conservatives here at DP who only have a few things to say, and think that repeating those same things over and over again is actual debating. I have put most of them on ignore, and there are 2 more who are on a short leash.
    Their basic problem is that they can't disagree without being disagreeable...
    do you feel the same way about the rude liberals who tend to agree with you on your soak the rich proclivities?



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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    Ive been listening to Hannity and Limbaugh and a morning conservative talk radio show lately. It is DISGUSTING how they twist the truth like a pretzel. Or just flat out lie. And none of them call it what it IS!!! They are calling it an economic investment. And a Tax Reinvestment Plan..... those are just TWO spin titles. (cant remember the others)
    I have by chance been able to listen to both during the past week, and you are full of crap. They have stated, and continue to correctly state it is not a tax cut. That at 2-years it is not going to give investors and businesses confidence to invest or hire because Obama says he will sock it to them in 2-years given the chance.

    Rush has said, and I agree... let's actually cut taxes.

    THEEEN... Hannity calls the unemployeed LAZY!
    Another flat out lie... Media Matters would jump on this like a Columbia University Pedophile would jump on his daughter... and I can't find the clip. Can you?

    This is akin to the false quotes attributed to Coulter. You going to the Obvious Child School of Debate Tactics?


    They should just pull themselves up and get a job. Or two...or five jobs. Then he talks about how heroic HE was when HE had *cough* financial trouble *cough* and how he got a job in less than 16 days because of his hard work and dedication. The TOTAL ignorance of this man is HUGE. The spin and BS is also HUGE.
    The guy came from a blue collar environment, and made it due to his own will and perseverance. Check out the stops on his rise to the top... he had more travel than an enlisted man working his way up the ranks.

    He wasn't handed his position like a Kennedy... or a Cuomo.

    I am soooooooo sick and disgusted at the GOP! They ACT like they are similar to Libertarians but they are just as Socialist as Democrats!!!
    This makes no sense at all. Hannity has actually tried to assist those unemployed... urging them to move forward, to look and be willing to be mobile. Yesterday he spoke with a guy locked out of a nuke facility in KY for 6-months. It was a heartfelt but honest appraisal of what the guy could do.

    Rush... believes we should gut taxes and let the free market help solve the unemployment situation. Obamanomiks... is breeding precisely what Republicans said it does ... government dependence.

    Long ago... when they had Clinton screaming and whining before signing on to the Welfare Reform Bill... and welfare recipients confirmed the harsh truth. Welfare becomes a life style. It is destructive. 99-weeks... not enough?

    Then how about cutting taxes, slashing regulations, and getting the ****ing government out of the way? We know the Obama-Carter economic plan is a failure. How about trying something proven to work every time it has been tried... and gutting the pig called government?

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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    There are several rude conservatives here at DP who only have a few things to say, and think that repeating those same things over and over again is actual debating. I have put most of them on ignore, and there are 2 more who are on a short leash.
    Their basic problem is that they can't disagree without being disagreeable...
    My bet is the problem is more like this... their arguments defeat your socialist, class warfare claims every damn time and you just can't stand it... and therefore, in your fits of intolerance... I mean moments of open-mindedness... you block their posts.

    Typical Lib. Narrower than a needle.

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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    That kind of info is why I think that THIS recession will last longer than previous ones, and there will be more lingering effects.
    I definitely agree with you there.

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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    more lies-tax cuts cost nothing and you have to prove that tax hikes will result in higher revenues which you cannot. The clinton tax hikes were an aberration due to the massive dot com bubble combined with the increased efficiencies that occurred as a result of corporate belt tightening under Bush
    It's already been proven. I don't know, take a look around you. It is a fact that 20% of private sector new jobs are created by small business and start-ups. Big business is not in the business of creating jobs. They are in the business of shedding them via increased productivity and smaller workforce. Thus, higher margins. Know what's really funny? The Bushies and your economic policies lost 800,00 private sector jobs over 8 years. So - what happened? I mean, we should be hummin' right along.

    Fact is, cuts for the top 2% grant little in stimulus. Any first year economist knows this. It gets you .30 on every dollar spent, if that. If you don't need to pay for it, why was this president stuck with $7.5 trillion of conservative tax cut debt and a shattered economy from the git-go? Just like Clinton got from you guys. Actually, George Sr. was the one who suffered.

    Even David Stockman disagrees with you. You know him, right? The architect of Reaganomics? Reagan's Budget Director? David Stockman? Him? He thinks ya'll have lost your minds.
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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Kev316 View Post
    It's already been proven. I don't know, take a look around you. It is a fact that 20% of private sector new jobs are created by small business and start-ups. Big business is not in the business of creating jobs. They are in the business of shedding them via increased productivity and smaller workforce. Thus, higher margins. Know what's really funny? The Bushies and your economic policies lost 800,00 private sector jobs over 8 years. So - what happened? I mean, we should be hummin' right along.

    Fact is, cuts for the top 2% grant little in stimulus. Any first year economist knows this. It gets you .30 on every dollar spent, if that. If you don't need to pay for it, why was this president stuck with $7.5 trillion of conservative tax cut debt and a shattered economy from the git-go? Just like Clinton got from you guys. Actually, George Sr. was the one who suffered.

    Even David Stockman disagrees with you. You know him, right? The architect of Reaganomics? Reagan's Budget Director? David Stockman? Him? He thinks ya'll have lost your minds.
    If you pay attention job creation has nothing to do with my position on why the rich should pay less and people like you should pay more. Stockman is a nobody now.



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    Re: CBS News Poll: Most Oppose GOP Tax Plan

    The great crime for which the worshippers of Ronald Reagan can never forgive Stockman for is he turned against their ideology. He realized it did not work and he is no longer a True Believer worshipping at the trickle down altar. He is a heretic and must be hunted down and dispatched to the nether worlds of politics.
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