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    Re: NASA to announce "major discovery" that could boost chances of life on other worl

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    What I find funny about this evolve crap is, why have we stopped evolving along with monkeys if that where we came from? Sorry I dont believe we fell out of the tree as monkeys to become humans. I also dont believe some God created us from dust of the earth or from his image.

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    Re: NASA to announce "major discovery" that could boost chances of life on other worl

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    Alien life form ‘is here on Earth’ | Skymania News and Guide

    Arsenic-based life would be totally alien from anything previously known to science.
    It would also kill us if we ate it.

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    Re: NASA to announce "major discovery" that could boost chances of life on other worl

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    we are still evolving, as are the monkeys, we never stopped. and we did not come from the monkeys, we came from a common ancenstor
    But according to a leading geneticist, both visions are wrong because human evolution has ground to a halt.
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    Re: NASA to announce "major discovery" that could boost chances of life on other worl

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    So these microbes didn't evolve like we did into carbon creatures? Cool.
    From the little information I can glean from what's been released so far, it doesn't sound like the announcement is arsenic-vs-carbon. It sounds more like arsenic-vs-phosphorus. Phosphorus is a critical ingredient in DNA and ATP (the source of cellular energy for all known life). Arsenic is much more volatile.

    But in either case, it means that there is a totally alien life form living next to us, that doesn't share any common ancestors with anything we've traditionally described as "life."

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08
    But just out of curiosity how do you know that this arson based lifeforms aren't the next step in evolution and us carbon beings are actually the ones left behind?
    Evolution isn't necessarily a progression. Neither form of life is the "next step," because they don't have anything in common with one another. It's more like two completely different lines of evolution that have existed side by side for (presumably) billions of years.

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    How does life evolving twice on earth mean life is likely elsewhere?
    If it had only occurred once, people could plausibly argue that it was a fluke...and that merely creating life-friendly conditions was not enough to actually cause life to evolve. People could still say that the odds against life ACTUALLY evolving just because the right environment existed were trillions-to-one. But since it's evolved twice on the same planet, that makes this vanishingly unlikely.
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    Re: NASA to announce "major discovery" that could boost chances of life on other worl

    Anyone with a brain will not find this a great announcement, since there is very little chance that we are alone in our vast Universe.

    Chances are very slim that we are the most highly developed life form.

    How long ago was it that they made the announcement they might have found on Mars? Now since we first heard that pretty much nothing but silence.

    I have for many years studied the claims of those in the UFO and E.T fields and interviewed many of the so-called experts and so far I have found only a couple of people who are not trying to sell a Video, book, or get you to visit their website and donate.

    Is this big news. I'd say no bigger than the discovery of the Tube Worms that thrive in the depths of the oceans and at pressures that are unimaginable, being bathed in acids.

    The news that it's new form of live is also no surprise as it was just a matter of time.

    16,969 species discovered in 2006
    16,969 species were discovered in 2006 according to a report compiled by Arizona State University's International Institute for Species Exploration, the International Commission on Zoological Nomenclature, the International Plant Names Index, and Thompson Scientific.
    So let's wait and get excited when E.T. lands on the field at Yankee Stadium, during the World Series.

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    Re: NASA to announce "major discovery" that could boost chances of life on other worl

    after browsing the article it seems the linked telegraph article, it seems it is still carbon based life, so this is along the lines of finding sulfur dependent bacteria in deep cave systems, it just shows the variability of present life is wider than we thought. This is no profound discovery with implications for multiple instances of abiogenesis, this is just showing that life can live in a much larger range of environments than previously thought. still pretty significant, just not mega-significant.
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    Re: NASA to announce "major discovery" that could boost chances of life on other worl

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    Holy crap so what your saying is NASA has been looking in all the wrong places for life? For example, they probably saw Mercury and just said "yeah its a ball of gas deffo no life there" when in fact it may in theory be the best place to look.
    I doubt it unless its withstand the extreme heat from the sun.

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    Re: NASA to announce "major discovery" that could boost chances of life on other worl

    Quote Originally Posted by Gray_Fox_86 View Post
    So that does that mean that the blood of these creatures is acid? Like in the movie Alien?
    Unfortunately not. No blood in microbes. SO CLOSE.

    Quote Originally Posted by Heavy Duty View Post
    What I find funny about this evolve crap is, why have we stopped evolving along with monkeys if that where we came from? Sorry I dont believe we fell out of the tree as monkeys to become humans. I also dont believe some God created us from dust of the earth or from his image.

    How man became man is the greatest mystery of all.
    I'd think this was trolling if I hadn't heard the same thing said seriously before.

    Evolution theory does not work the way you think it works.

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    It would also kill us if we ate it.
    That typically is our first reaction to new life forms...
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: NASA to announce "major discovery" that could boost chances of life on other worl

    that is a credible source.

    even if we have bypassed and short circuited natural selection through our artificial environments, we still have selection,
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    Re: NASA to announce "major discovery" that could boost chances of life on other worl

    Quote Originally Posted by marduc View Post
    after browsing the article it seems the linked telegraph article, it seems it is still carbon based life, so this is along the lines of finding sulfur dependent bacteria in deep cave systems, it just shows the variability of present life is wider than we thought. This is no profound discovery with implications for multiple instances of abiogenesis, this is just showing that life can live in a much larger range of environments than previously thought. still pretty significant, just not mega-significant.
    That's not my interpretation from the article. I agree that it sounds like carbon-based life, but with a crucial difference: it uses arsenic instead of phosphorus in its equivalent of DNA and ATP. That would indicate that it has nothing in common with other forms of life.
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