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    Re: Netflix Partner Says Comcast ‘Toll’ Threatens Online Video Delivery

    This is another example of a US ISP not willing to pay to maintain and expand its own backbone to support the demand. And that is because there is no competition on the market... pure and simple. Your own laws are idiotic on the ISP/telecommunications area and are preventing competition.
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    Re: Netflix Partner Says Comcast ‘Toll’ Threatens Online Video Delivery

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    netflix isn't pushing content out. users that pay for their bandwidth is pulling content out. so the cost of the bandwidth is already being paid for by those consuming.
    Isn't this really all about that net neutrality issue. Currently all users pay the same fee to internet provides regardless of how much bandwidth they use. The government regulates this. Currently the FCC is looking into whether they should allow tiered pricing for the internet. So if you use more you pay more.

    This is a relatively new industry. It will be an interesting question of whom owns what and whom pays for what.

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    Re: Netflix Partner Says Comcast ‘Toll’ Threatens Online Video Delivery

    Those of us who use more already pay more, because we tend to be willing to pay for faster speed. See, you can't really watch netflix movies online using their lowest tier of service. The movies crash all the time or slow down. So, this is an ADDITIONAL TOLL that comcast is attempting to leverage on users.

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    Re: Netflix Partner Says Comcast ‘Toll’ Threatens Online Video Delivery

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    Don't you think that Netflix should pay for shipping their movies? If they send it in the mail they pay, why not when they use a service that gets films to them and their customers quicker. Comcast spent billions building out an infrastructure to deliver the internet to homes. They need a return on their investment if they are to keep up our internet lines.
    If the ISPs properly priced their lines, all of this will already be taken care of.

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    Re: Netflix Partner Says Comcast ‘Toll’ Threatens Online Video Delivery

    We are forced to use Comcast. They are a sly communications business. They have corrupted the governor and won't allow any competition to run cable lines in our area. They nickel and dime everyone to death with fees and we just have to live with it because they are the only cable provider in the area. It's unethical and should be changed.
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    Re: Netflix Partner Says Comcast ‘Toll’ Threatens Online Video Delivery

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Those of us who use more already pay more, because we tend to be willing to pay for faster speed. See, you can't really watch netflix movies online using their lowest tier of service. The movies crash all the time or slow down. So, this is an ADDITIONAL TOLL that comcast is attempting to leverage on users.
    That's because they have sold more than they have. In reality it has nothing to do with Netflix, but the fact that Comcast is not willing to pay for the expansion of its backbone to meet the demand put on it. I have seen it so many times, and usually said ISPs go bankrupt with-in a year. But that of course requires customers switch to an alternative ISP, and since Comcast has a near monopoly many places then well...

    Dont worry, soon Youtube and even basic downloading will be throttled or banned so that they can keep the quality of service they are suppose to instead of expanding their infrastructure. Hell I would even expect a few GB a month max download to be imposed soon at this rate.. a classic delaying tactic.

    Question is.. what was Comcast's profit last year?
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    Re: Netflix Partner Says Comcast ‘Toll’ Threatens Online Video Delivery

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    We are forced to use Comcast. They are a sly communications business. They have corrupted the governor and won't allow any competition to run cable lines in our area. They nickel and dime everyone to death with fees and we just have to live with it because they are the only cable provider in the area. It's unethical and should be changed.
    use the Euro way.. force owners of the cables to share. Great competition you get, lower prices and great quality
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    Re: Netflix Partner Says Comcast ‘Toll’ Threatens Online Video Delivery

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Question is.. what was Comcast's profit last year?
    Why? Are you going to decide how much money they should be allowed to make??

    Comcast could tier-price internet useage in a heartbeat. Seems like their way of collecting a fee from Netflix and the like (that they will pass along to consumers) allows the people using that bandwith to pay their way rather effectively.
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    Re: Netflix Partner Says Comcast ‘Toll’ Threatens Online Video Delivery

    Except that's Comcast essentially leaching off the backbone the public helped pay for to do an end around. We pay for bandwidth from comcast, we are not paying for them to choose how we use our bandwidth. So they're essentially attempting to limit how we use the bandwidth we're paying for by attempting to end around it through forcing more money out of netflix's provider.

    Now this would be one thing if we were in a free market. But we're not, the various telecoms own a monoploy. For example, in my old apartment complex I had the choice of Cox, Cox, and Cox. We've set up mini-monopolies and unless we remove their government protection to be monopolies we need them to not be able to do this kind of thing.

    We are paying a monthly charge for bandwidth. Some of us are paying MORE per month specifically to get more bandwidth. There's no use for that, and its cheating us, if you then start causing the things that we'd use said bandwidth for to be slowed down to a crawl by throttling or making it so they can't be accessed in some way.

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    Re: Netflix Partner Says Comcast ‘Toll’ Threatens Online Video Delivery

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    Isn't this really all about that net neutrality issue. Currently all users pay the same fee to internet provides regardless of how much bandwidth they use. The government regulates this. Currently the FCC is looking into whether they should allow tiered pricing for the internet. So if you use more you pay more.

    This is a relatively new industry. It will be an interesting question of whom owns what and whom pays for what.
    What this will do is change the pricing and billing method. Right now, I pay $49 a month for Comcast internet and I get basically 7mb down and 5 mb up within about 1,000 miles of my local Comcast gateway. What this MAY turn into is, I pay $49 a month for the same speed but for say 5 GB of traffic per month. If I want more, I have to pay another $x.00 per GB. It's my understanding Europe does this (in particular Portugal / Spain) or some company's there. That way, you can use as much bandwidth as you want, up to your limit - then have to pay for more.

    iPad 3G connectivity through AT&T does this now. It's coming to the rest of us very soon.
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