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    Re: EPA Fraud: Chevy Volt, Nissan Leaf Actually Get Only 23, 25 MPG

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I'd like to see your numbers on that.
    It's on the EPA sticker that Redress posted.

    I kind of posted it as a joke - but the 4hr charge time is what's listed.
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    Re: EPA Fraud: Chevy Volt, Nissan Leaf Actually Get Only 23, 25 MPG

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    The journOlists at it again.
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    From everything I've read, the Volt is basically a lower-end version of the Prius with a higher price-tag and less usable space inside the car. While I can appreciate it being a step for a company that has been as resistant to change as the Catholic church, I question it's value beyond novelty. $40,000 is one hell of a sticker price, considering I could pick up THREE used versions of my current car and TWO brand new ones for that price. Additionally, a 2010 Prius Blue Book MSRP is $25,000, almost half the cost of the Volt.

    So the question for me remains; why do I want to fork out 40 grand for a COMPLETELY new car from a company that has never really made these kinds of cars before when everything it does has been done before and better by another car that has a much longer history, more usability, and a lower price?

    For me personally, F both the Volt and the Prius. I'm getting a Honda Civic Hybrid when I go for a new car.
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    Re: EPA Fraud: Chevy Volt, Nissan Leaf Actually Get Only 23, 25 MPG

    Journalists have a very bad track record when it comes to reporting math or science issues. Why would we expect more?

    If they aren't fudging the numbers to make a better story they can't even frigging add or subtract. The story a while back by a stringer for CNN about the 200 year old beer found in a shipwreck was a good example. The author said 5 Celcius was freezing. Sorry dude try 0 Celcius and go back to your 6th grade science class where you somehow missed this.
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    Re: EPA Fraud: Chevy Volt, Nissan Leaf Actually Get Only 23, 25 MPG

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    It's on the EPA sticker that Redress posted.

    I kind of posted it as a joke - but the 4hr charge time is what's listed.
    No, I meant about the battery wear and costing more in the long run. How long does it last and how much will it cost me to replace?
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    Re: EPA Fraud: Chevy Volt, Nissan Leaf Actually Get Only 23, 25 MPG

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    No, I meant about the battery wear and costing more in the long run. How long does it last and how much will it cost me to replace?
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    Re: EPA Fraud: Chevy Volt, Nissan Leaf Actually Get Only 23, 25 MPG

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    The Volt will have charging parameters installed that will prevent excessive battery cycles extending the life of the battery a great deal. I dont know about the Leaf though, give that it is battery only
    That's what I thought. I just bought a hundred dollar cordless drill that has this feature, hopefully they could work it somewhere into a 40000 dollar car.

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