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OBAMA 4 SHARIA - America's most powerful imam does it again....

Believe it or not but I think councilman had the best rebuttal here until he went back to birther theories.
 
Republic_Of_Public said:
How invalid are they?




Good academic rebuttal.




No. And I have no idea what Freepl is.
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It is up to you to prove that your claims are legitimate. Just tossing out conspiracy theory crap and claiming that it's credible is not enough. You made a claim. Prove it with legitimate evidence. Maybe you think that your ridiculous propaganda and information that your misrepresent or distort, cuts it, but it doesn't.

Instead of baraging people with scores of links from sources that have no credibility, or distoring what information is presented, try to debate honestly. Show us ONE LEGITMATE MAIN STREAM source that backs your claim.
 
...sources that have no credibility, or distoring what information is presented...
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Good, tell us why. I've provided plenty of material and it doesn't matter what you think of them, unless they're worthy of infraction. Indeed, all I've had from liberals is smear and invalidation anyway.

I'm hardly guilty until proven innocent. No point in demanding rewrite after rewrite from someone else.


And you'd also best argue with Spectator magazine, revealing Odinga's Islamist agenda: Barack Obama and His Support for Islamic Sharia Law and al Qaeda « AmeriCAN-DO Attitude
 
He is supporting a constitutional form of government. How unamerican...
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Supporting it is fine, especially if fair. 'Buying' it with American tax Dollars on the quiet is quite another.
 
Republic_Of_Public said:
Good, tell us why. I've provided plenty of material and it doesn't matter what you think of them, unless they're worthy of infraction. Indeed, all I've had from liberals is smear and invalidation anyway.

I'm hardly guilty until proven innocent. No point in demanding rewrite after rewrite from someone else.


And you'd also best argue with Spectator magazine, revealing Odinga's Islamist agenda: Barack Obama and His Support for Islamic Sharia Law and al Qaeda « AmeriCAN-DO Attitude
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Wordpress blog, how convincing...Seriously, until you actually get some evidence from a real source, there is nothing to refute.
 
We routinely spend money for things like this.
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Well, quite.


Wordpress blog, how convincing...
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That's perfectly fine if you're not convinced.

And the article backlinks to the likes of the Spectator itself. Plus if it's all rubbish then there'd be plenty to refute, not less!
 
Republic_Of_Public said:
Well, quite.




That's perfectly fine if you're not convinced.

And the article backlinks to the likes of the Spectator itself. Plus if it's all rubbish then there'd be plenty to refute, not less!
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If it's so convincing, you can find actual sources for your claims.
 
Republic_Of_Public said:
Here's another one, outlining Odinga's policy with his own signature: Barack Obama backs a Taliban Supporter in Kenya

And Obama has been witnessed backing Odinga in his electioneering, as covered.

Deny, rufute or agree, the data's there. You can start with with the others.
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Blogspot...LoLz.

Do you think maybe there is a reason no one is reporting this except random blogs and nutcase organizations?
 
Republic_Of_Public said:
Here's another one, outlining Odinga's policy with his own signature: Barack Obama backs a Taliban Supporter in Kenya

And Obama has been witnessed backing Odinga in his electioneering, as covered.

Deny, rufute or agree, the data's there. You can start with with the others.
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Don't shoot the messenger here... but no one especially the libs will give you any credibility for these posts. Even if MSNBC, CBS, NBC and the Federal Government and the SCOTUS provided backing on this you'd get the same treatment. There is NO source, no amount of data and no website on the internet which will do anything on this subject. Speaking for myself, the sites you're providing are people with blogs... they are opinion pieces or they are coming from sites with clear agenda's - like media matters would be viewed by a conservative like myself. What you need is irrefutable evidence - in other words fact and even if you have that, you'll still get the same treatment like "why isn't this being carried by the main stream media"?

Bottom line is, vote the bum out in 2012 and do as much as you can to make that happen.
 
Ockham said:
Don't shoot the messenger here... but no one especially the libs will give you any credibility for these posts. Even if MSNBC, CBS, NBC and the Federal Government and the SCOTUS provided backing on this you'd get the same treatment. There is NO source, no amount of data and no website on the internet which will do anything on this subject. Speaking for myself, the sites you're providing are people with blogs... they are opinion pieces or they are coming from sites with clear agenda's - like media matters would be viewed by a conservative like myself. What you need is irrefutable evidence - in other words fact and even if you have that, you'll still get the same treatment like "why isn't this being carried by the main stream media"?

Bottom line is, vote the bum out in 2012 and do as much as you can to make that happen.
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Nicely done sir. It's liberals fault for wanting actual evidence for accusations. Damn them all to hell for expecting facts!

Hint: I have been proven wrong by people who presented real evidence I was wrong. I have changed my attitudes on things based on evidence presented. What I don't give any credence to is random blogs and extremist organizations for sources. I do in fairness say the exact same thing about things such as DU, HuffPo, Media Matters, and so on.

If the allegations RoP made have anything to it, it should be reported by something reliable. Fox News should be all over it(and I accept Fox News as a reliable source in terms of news reporting). However, the source he initially used I did in fact prove inaccurate, and nothing he has added since has even the slightest bit of credibility.

The problem is not that I am a liberal, it's that RoP does not understand how to support claims.
 
Redress said:
Nicely done sir. It's liberals fault for wanting actual evidence for accusations. Damn them all to hell for expecting facts!
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My point was actually - even WERE there evidence, the accusations and dismissals would still occur. But you're correct in wanting evidence - I just doubt your accepting such evidence and admitting you were wrong. You say it's happened so I'll believe you. I'll believe you more when I see it happen for myself. :wink:


Redress said:
The problem is not that I am a liberal, it's that RoP does not understand how to support claims.
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Actually both are a problem but being just a liberal is an affliction - like acid reflux; an annoying and aggravating affliction though not life threatening. Progressivisim though is like mad cow disease, eventually it turns the person into a blathering nutjob with a brain like a hole filled sponge. I'm relieved you're just a lib. But yes, the lack of actual evidence is dubious at best and while interesting entertainment, it should be ignored for the most part.
 
Blogspot...LoLz.
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Even if MSNBC, CBS, NBC and the Federal Government and the SCOTUS provided backing on this you'd get the same treatment.
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I know. Which is ironic when they haven't done a hands' turn to provide counter-links, save for one DP thread which didn't deny anything anyway.


And I take your point about the blogs. But those blogs aren't necessarily dead-ended. Indeed, the last one linked to the photos of 'loaded gun' itself.


Do you think maybe there is a reason no one is reporting this except random blogs and nutcase organizations?
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I'll tell the editor of the Washington Times you said that: Wake up America: Washington Times on Obama-Odinga-Genocide-Muslim Law



Damn them all to hell for expecting facts!
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Facts provided.


it should be ignored for the most part.
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Open the links and you can find previous reports and news.
 
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Republic_Of_Public said:
I know. Which is ironic when they haven't done a hands' turn to provide counter-links, save for one DP thread which didn't deny anything anyway.


And I take your point about the blogs. But those blogs aren't necessarily dead-ended. Indeed, the last one linked to the photos of 'loaded gun' itself.




I'll tell the editor of the Washington Times you said that: Wake up America: Washington Times on Obama-Odinga-Genocide-Muslim Law


And there we have it.
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Ah, I see why you could not be troubled to link to the actual Washington Times Editorial. It's because it does not say all the stuff you want to present. Keep up the good work!
 
Does anyone see the contradiction in the original post


The Obama government giving money to Kenya to increase access to abortions, ban gay rights and impose sharia law?

Abortions, anti gay rights and sharia law seem contradictory in nature to me
 
Republic_Of_Public said:
It's not impossible for a news editorial to refer to the news, even the WT.
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Funny how you only quoted part of my post. Almost as if you had no refutation for what I said....
 
This is the most damning thing in the Washington Times piece... which is 'commentary'... aka OPINION...

Mr. Obama's judgment is seriously called into question when he backs an official with troubling ties to Muslim extremists and whose supporters practice ethnic cleansing and genocide.
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Yes, it does call Obama's judgment into question... but that's ALL this does.

It does not link Obama in any meaningful way to the Kenyan politicians inner circle, or prove or even suggest Obama holds the same beliefs or opinions.

ALL it does, is show a young Senator exercised poor judgment in supporting a guy he had not looked into in any great detail.

I don't support Obama, his ideals, his direction for the country, his policies, etc... not by a long shot as you all know. But even I think this is bull**** and a waste of bandwidth.
 
ALL it does, is show a young Senator exercised poor judgment in supporting a guy he had not looked into in any great detail.
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I never claimed anything more myself.
 
He exercises 'poor' judgement even now.....


Leaked documents show Hussein selling weapons to terrorists!

U.S. to Sell F-15 Fighter Jets to Saudis - FoxNews.com

Why $60 billion in US arms to Saudi Arabia isn't causing an outcry - CSMonitor.com

The WikiLeaks revelation that Saudi donors are the chief financiers of al-Qaida comes just days after President Obama secretly moved forward with plans to sell $60 billion worth of fighter jets and military equipment to the Saudis who will in turn sell them to terrorists on his behalf – the largest weapons sale to a nation in U.S. history.

A New York Times summary of the WikiLeaks release of more than a quarter-million confidential American diplomatic cables relates the U.S. has information Saudi donors remain the chief financiers of al-Qaida and other Sunni terrorist organizations.

Just last week, Obama attempted to solidify the weapons deal to Saudi Arabia, despite questions raised about the deal by lawmakers and a congressional report that questions the wisdom of the sale.
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I wouldn't say 'poor' exactly........

Even if the assertion that the arms will go to terrorists is only a guess, the fact Obama is selling to an Islamonazi nation which allows terror funding on many levels is a gamble the USA will be the fool to take.


(Cue Liberal-Left hate speech...)
 
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Lord Tammerlain said:
Does anyone see the contradiction in the original post


The Obama government giving money to Kenya to increase access to abortions, ban gay rights and impose sharia law?

Abortions, anti gay rights and sharia law seem contradictory in nature to me
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Let's not let logic mess up a good conspiracy theory.
 
Republic_Of_Public said:
Do you take the Congressmens' finding with salt too? That's the issue here, not BareNakedIslam.
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Provide these findings and I'll take a look at them.

NVM.

I don't know why I posted in this thread.
Please ignore me and my sniggering
 
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