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    Re: Airport Security: Let's Profile Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    One step at a time. First off, groping and fondling. Next step, pissed off people. Third step, if we want the groping and fondling and naked pictures to stop; give us your biometric data. You're getting ahead of yourself.

    And TSA is a government agency, as a part of the government of course it's power hungry and oversteps boundaries. That's what government does.
    That's an assumption that has zero basis in facts, and is in fact, rooted in your paradigm. Please feel free to factually prove this claim.

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    Re: Airport Security: Let's Profile Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    That's an assumption that has zero basis in facts, and is in fact, rooted in your paradigm. Please feel free to factually prove this claim.
    In due time dear Catz. The government already tried things like the Real ID Act which would have subjected us all to RFID type technologies. The only reason that hasn't been started up yet was because some of the States got pissy (rightfully so). The TSA isn't just some benevolent force come down from heaven to watch over us. It's a government agency. Government expanded its power to create it, expanded its power when it demanded that is engage in such hostile, aggressive, and demeaning treatment of the People. It'll do it again in the future. This is the natural course of government. You don't throw the frog into a pot of boiling water. You put it in a pot of luke warm water and turn on the heat. Thus is the way it's done, be it the usurpation of drug laws, drinking ages, National IDs, expansion of unwarranted surveillance, etc.

    The TSA is not here to save us, they cannot save us. They're here to expand government's power, put it's tentacles in new places so we can't help but brush up against them. You want TSA going after personal information? All in due time, because it will eventually go that route. Why? Because all government, particularly unchecked government, tends towards tyranny. You can choose not to believe me, but the whole of history shows the natural path government takes. It will continue to expand upon itself, it's not going to spontaneously shrink. And that you can take to the bank.
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    Re: Airport Security: Let's Profile Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Common sense is we should profile Muslims....They are the ones committing the terrorist attacks.........
    Why do you have so little respect for our Constitution? What good is fighting for the principles and values of America when people like you are so willing to spit on the foundations of our country?
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: Airport Security: Let's Profile Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    In due time dear Catz. The government already tried things like the Real ID Act which would have subjected us all to RFID type technologies. The only reason that hasn't been started up yet was because some of the States got pissy (rightfully so). The TSA isn't just some benevolent force come down from heaven to watch over us. It's a government agency. Government expanded its power to create it, expanded its power when it demanded that is engage in such hostile, aggressive, and demeaning treatment of the People. It'll do it again in the future. This is the natural course of government. You don't throw the frog into a pot of boiling water. You put it in a pot of luke warm water and turn on the heat. Thus is the way it's done, be it the usurpation of drug laws, drinking ages, National IDs, expansion of unwarranted surveillance, etc.

    The TSA is not here to save us, they cannot save us. They're here to expand government's power, put it's tentacles in new places so we can't help but brush up against them. You want TSA going after personal information? All in due time, because it will eventually go that route. Why? Because all government, particularly unchecked government, tends towards tyranny. You can choose not to believe me, but the whole of history shows the natural path government takes. It will continue to expand upon itself, it's not going to spontaneously shrink. And that you can take to the bank.
    You should stop using that frog in the boiling water metaphor. It's an urban legend...just like your entire post.

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    Re: Airport Security: Let's Profile Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Why do you have so little respect for our Constitution? What good is fighting for the principles and values of America when people like you are so willing to spit on the foundations of our country?
    When a kid goes missing in a neighborhood, questioning the single 43-year-old guy who entertains teen-aged boys in his home, entertains at kids parties, and coaches all the baseball games in the neighborhood is not spitting on our Constitution...especially if he paints clown pictures.
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    Re: Airport Security: Let's Profile Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    You should stop using that frog in the boiling water metaphor. It's an urban legend...just like your entire post.
    Yeah you're right. Government has never expanded once in history. Never has it acted out against it's own people. It's never acted improperly, never siezed power it wasn't supposed to have. No, government has always been a benevolent force, right? Like a nice, warm puppy. There's no evidence of any government doing anything wrong ever, particularly ours. What warrantless searches? You're being silly. What aggressive search techniques by TSA? They're keeping us safe, right? Patriot Act, Real ID Act....what, no now you're just being silly. Yup. Nothing to see here, move along.

    Tell you what Catz, when you want to have an actual conversation then come back. Till that point, idiotic dismiss statements are not going to advance anything.
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    Re: Airport Security: Let's Profile Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    The TSA is not here to save us, they cannot save us. They're here to expand government's power, put it's tentacles in new places so we can't help but brush up against them.
    Gee, silly me. And here I thought the TSA was tasked primarily with making us safer when we travel, not expanding the power of the federal government. I had no idea that was really their primary goal. Thank you so much for shedding some light onto the situation.

    BTW... I think you'd be more comfortable in the Conspiracy Theory section... just saying

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    Re: Airport Security: Let's Profile Muslims

    You know what, I have a solution that will please everybody.

    You know how you're not allowed to smile in your passport photo? **** it, make everybody smile and strip search anyone who doesn't smile at the airport, who's gonna be happy about blowing themselves up

    (please don't answer that)

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    Re: Airport Security: Let's Profile Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    When a kid goes missing in a neighborhood, questioning the single 43-year-old guy who entertains teen-aged boys in his home, entertains at kids parties, and coaches all the baseball games in the neighborhood is not spitting on our Constitution...especially if he paints clown pictures.
    Just because someone hangs arouond young boys, and ONLY young boys, doesn't mean he should be considered a suspect in a case like this.... oh wait... YES... it does. It's called common ****ing sense.

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    Re: Airport Security: Let's Profile Muslims

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    Gee, silly me. And here I thought the TSA was tasked primarily with making us safer when we travel, not expanding the power of the federal government. I had no idea that was really their primary goal. Thank you so much for shedding some light onto the situation.
    Yeah, you would think they were tasked to make us "safer". But how much "safer" are we? TSA didn't catch the underwear nor shoe bomber. They couldn't light themselves on fire in the end. And the new methods, these aggressive groping and naked images that we're doing now wouldn't have caught it. Nor will it make us "safer". Terrorism was already low probability, and there is no real way to significantly make us "safer" as the added risk posed by terrorists to the over all probability that we will die on any 1 given flight is minuscule. So what have they really done for us? Not much, nor will they be able to have that significant of an impact. While there can be arguments made for not outright dismissing the TSA, there is significant argument to be made that it should be run more effectively, intelligently, and less aggressively against its own people particularly when we consider the overall probabilities that we're talking about.

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    BTW... I think you'd be more comfortable in the Conspiracy Theory section... just saying
    Well there you go again proving that thinking ain't your strong suit.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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