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    Re: U.S. Government Seizes BitTorrent Search Engine Domain and More

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    That's like saying police shouldn't try to capture bank robbers because there are also carjackers. They can do two things.
    Having ICE go after nerds downloading music and other crap is like having the FBI crack down on jay walkers while at the same time letting those who commit federal crimes go.
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    Re: U.S. Government Seizes BitTorrent Search Engine Domain and More

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    What the hell does immigration have to do with enforcement of copyright law? This is nothing more than a baiting thread to pit conservatives against libertarians.
    This is really the point in all of this. Government crackdowns on internet sites...on travelers at airports, on marijuana smokers...look at us...we are DOING something! Yay!

    OK...so we havent touched the illegal immigration problem and we focus more on our citizens than on the people that pose a threat...but at least we LOOK pro-active.

    And for all the liberals that are ONCE AGAIN knee jerking dropping to their knees in defense of this admin...werent you the same ones freaking out (oddly joining your voices then with the pro 2A and ant-givernment groups) about Bush and their 'attacks on Americans freedoms and liberty'? Good lord what a bunch of laughable hypocrites...

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    Re: U.S. Government Seizes BitTorrent Search Engine Domain and More

    HA HA HA HA HA HA what a joke. The state will never shut down, torrent downloading, NEVER!
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    Re: U.S. Government Seizes BitTorrent Search Engine Domain and More

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    The software is a hassle, it doesn't work efficiently and it's tedious.
    Works for me

    All one needs is a Grex Box and any ole DVD recorder.
    whats a Grex Box?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    What the hell does immigration have to do with enforcement of copyright law? This is nothing more than a baiting thread to pit conservatives against libertarians.
    Yes sir, I won't deny that. The agency would rather oversee the copying and sharing of data over the internet which continues this copyright protection philosophy that has made debatepolitics.com less prosperous and more beuarcratic to prevent claims of copy infringements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R. Shackleferd View Post
    whats a Grex Box?
    It's a signal interruption box - input is plugged into one side, output extends out the other - from your TV to DVR or whatever. In order to prevent you from recording said copy there is a programmed signal that tells your DVD or computer "don't record this" - if that signal is interrupted then it won't be received and, thus, your DVR won't know "don't record this"

    The grex box filters out the signal while allowing the actual video of the feed through.
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    Re: U.S. Government Seizes BitTorrent Search Engine Domain and More

    That sounds a helluvalot more complicated actually. I would do it a different way but the mythtv videolan method isn't exactly easy sounding either.

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    Re: U.S. Government Seizes BitTorrent Search Engine Domain and More

    Quote Originally Posted by R. Shackleferd View Post
    That sounds a helluvalot more complicated actually. I would do it a different way but the mythtv videolan method isn't exactly easy sounding either.
    I've used one - don't own one, now, though.
    It was simple. It's just a small box that can sit behind your tv set out of sight. With whatever adapters necessary (svga or vga, etc) you plug your video (only) into one end - then plug the box into your recorder (dvr, computer, etc).
    The last time I used it there was an 'on/off' switch on the grex box. Flip it on - start the play on the tv or whatever, start the record - there you go.

    Sometimes the box would flubb up and let some of the signal through which would end the recording process. but most of the time it worked fine.

    I'm sure they've improved them since then - and have programmed them with multiple-filters to filter our a variety of signals (seeing as how, surely, they've had to get more varied in order to go around said filter methods).
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    Re: U.S. Government Seizes BitTorrent Search Engine Domain and More

    HipHop? People might well be concerned if this were a story related to some form of music.
    Last edited by Councilman; 11-28-10 at 07:36 PM.

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    Re: U.S. Government Seizes BitTorrent Search Engine Domain and More

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Having ICE go after nerds downloading music and other crap is like having the FBI crack down on jay walkers while at the same time letting those who commit federal crimes go.
    They weren't just going after nerds downloading music. They were going after large counterfeiting operations too, companies that make knockoff jerseys and whatever.

    That C in ICE stands for Customs. This is part of their domain. It's not like "letting people go." Nobody is being let go. Law enforcement can do two things at the same time.


    Besides, the way ICE went about "seizing" these websites literally takes one line of code entered into a DNS server. It probably took all of ten minutes to actually implement this. Resources are not being redirected from scary brown people crossing the Mexican border. What they did was just redirect the DNS server to a website that has their logo on it saying "THIS DOMAIN HAS BEEN SEIZED." You can actually still access all of these websites directly by entering their IP addresses.

    edit: Some of these websites aren't based in the US even. ICE can't kick down a door in China and confiscate a server. They'd get shot.
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    Re: U.S. Government Seizes BitTorrent Search Engine Domain and More

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    This is really the point in all of this. Government crackdowns on internet sites...on travelers at airports, on marijuana smokers...look at us...we are DOING something! Yay!

    OK...so we havent touched the illegal immigration problem and we focus more on our citizens than on the people that pose a threat...but at least we LOOK pro-active.

    And for all the liberals that are ONCE AGAIN knee jerking dropping to their knees in defense of this admin...werent you the same ones freaking out (oddly joining your voices then with the pro 2A and ant-givernment groups) about Bush and their 'attacks on Americans freedoms and liberty'? Good lord what a bunch of laughable hypocrites...
    The trouble with certain types of libertarians is that they think they can sit on the sidelines and criticize both sides without doing any of the work. That's the trouble with SOME libertarians, they are like the welfare collectors of politics; lots of talking and criticizing without any responsibility, given they can't win an election.
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